Request for permissions for opt in tuning archive

Hi Everyone

If you want to be in the first upload of the
complete tuning archive and haven't
asked to be included yet, please contact
me to give your permission:

Robert Walker
tuning_archivie@robertinventor.com

It is an opt in archive.
The archive posts will be visible
to search engines. A zip
of the entire archive will
also be made available for
download. Later it may
get included on a CD for distribution
to tuning members and intersted
tuning enthusiasts.
All the posts remain copyright
of the original posters.

So far there are just short
of thirty names on the list,
including many regular posters.
So it will be fairly extensive.
Every page of posts will include
a contact e-mail so I'm hopeful
that former members will get in touch
later as a result of finding
the pages in search engines.

There is absolutely no obligation
at all to join. Several posters
have already said they don't
want their posts included,
which is why the archive has
been made opt in.

You can also ask for a
personal archive to be made
for your own use, consisting of just
your own posts. This could be of
interest if you want to
work up your posts for future
publication. Just contact
me to ask for it. You
don't need to opt into the
public archive to ask for
this.

Robert

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Walker" <robertwalker@n...> wrote:

> It is an opt in archive.

Please consider opting in; the more the merrier.

> You can also ask for a
> personal archive to be made
> for your own use, consisting of just
> your own posts. This could be of
> interest if you want to
> work up your posts for future
> publication. Just contact
> me to ask for it.

I'd like that. I also wonder if putting up a mirror on my web site
might help.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Walker" <robertwalker@n...>

/tuning/topicId_54634.html#54634

wrote:
> Hi Everyone
>
> If you want to be in the first upload of the
> complete tuning archive and haven't
> asked to be included yet, please contact
> me to give your permission:
>
> Robert Walker
> tuning_archivie@r...
>
> It is an opt in archive.

***Hello Robert,

I'm assuming I agreed to this (it was some time ago, so I can't
recall). Please put me on the list. Do we get to see the entire list
of opt-ins or is that confidential?

Thanks!

Joseph Pehrson

hi Robert,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Walker" <robertwalker@n...>
>
> /tuning/topicId_54634.html#54634
>

> ***Hello Robert,
>
> I'm assuming I agreed to this (it was some time ago, so
> I can't recall). Please put me on the list. Do we get to
> see the entire list of opt-ins or is that confidential?

yes, a list of "opt-ins" is something i'd like too.

-monz

on 7/16/04 4:37 PM, Robert Walker <robertwalker@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone
>
> If you want to be in the first upload of the
> complete tuning archive and haven't
> asked to be included yet, please contact
> me to give your permission:
>
> Robert Walker
> tuning_archivie@robertinventor.com

Many archives manage to avoid exposing the full email addresses of the
participants. This is a good idea. I'd like to know whether you intend to
do that before I opt in.

Keep in mind that if you do not specifically try to avoid it, email
addresses of people who did not opt in will be exposed in as much as they
appear in the so-and-so-wrote line, so it might be a good idea to avoid this
problem by masking all email addresses, wherever they appear in a message.

Apparently the yahoo archives do not expose anyone's full email addresses,
but private copies of messages received via the email interface that were
not sent via the yahoo interface do contain full addresses in the
so-and-so-wrote lines.

-Kurt

Hi Kurt,

> Many archives manage to avoid exposing the full email addresses of the
> participants. This is a good idea. I'd like to know whether you intend to
> do that before I opt in.

Yes, my program replaces all e-mail addresses everywhere they occur
in the archive by the likes of: paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
- you can still see the name before the e-mail address,
but the rest is all masked.

Robert

Hi Gene,

> > You can also ask for a
> > personal archive to be made
> > for your own use, consisting of just
> > your own posts. This could be of
> > interest if you want to
> > work up your posts for future
> > publication. Just contact
> > me to ask for it.

> I'd like that. I also wonder if putting up a mirror on my web site
> might help.

Okay I'll do you one. Yes, might well help, thanks.

Robert

Hi Monz, and Joseph,

> I'm assuming I agreed to this (it was some time ago, so I can't
> recall). Please put me on the list. Do we get to see the entire list
> of opt-ins or is that confidential?

Yes you are on it.

The list can't be confidential - you just need
to look and see whose posts are included in the archive.
The posts are indexed by author as well as subject,
so if you look at the list of authors when it is done,
you will see who is in it.

I'm doing tuning-math right now as the first
upload as it is smaller, so less to make
and to upload.

Welcome any comments at that point.

Then may do harmonic entropy, and
perhaps an archive of the most recent tuning posts
e.g. the last few months or so
for comment before I go on and do the
entire archive. It is useful to
get things sorted out with the
smaller archives first.

Thanks,

Robert

on 7/17/04 3:10 PM, Robert Walker <robertwalker@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Hi Kurt,
>
>> Many archives manage to avoid exposing the full email addresses of the
>> participants. This is a good idea. I'd like to know whether you intend to
>> do that before I opt in.
>
> Yes, my program replaces all e-mail addresses everywhere they occur
> in the archive by the likes of: paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> - you can still see the name before the e-mail address,
> but the rest is all masked.

That's great. I've already sent you an email to sign up. I hope it is easy
for you to add people as you go along, otherwise you should probably give
"final" notice and then wait another week for stragglers. Not everybody
checks this list daily.

-Kurt

Hi Kurt,

> That's great. I've already sent you an email to sign up. I hope it is easy
> for you to add people as you go along, otherwise you should probably give
> "final" notice and then wait another week for stragglers. Not everybody
> checks this list daily.

Adding is easy but uploading isn't as all the web pages need to
be remade to update the indexes with the new posts, so it is
a large upload on dial up.

So what I'll do is to upload an example with the last month or
last few months posts or some such, and then give a "final"
notice as you suggest. Then a week later or so do the
final upload.

Before that, I will do the smaller ones tuning-math
and harmonic_entropy. Tuning-math is nearly uploaded
- will announce it soon.

I'll redo it from time to time but not very often as
it will take many hours, perhaps 10 to 20,
to upload the entire archive on
a dial up connection, which is what I have
right now. However it doesn't need to be done
all in one go, so it is a matter of uploading
new sections from time to time,
maybe for several days until it is done.

I'll probably maintain a separate
archive with the most recent posts
for each of the sites, and upload
that more often.

If I am able to change to mini
broadband in the near future then it will
be more frequent.

As far as space and bandwidth is concerneed,
my site has plenty of both and to spare.

Robert

From: "Robert Walker" <robertwalker@ntlworld.com>

> Hi Everyone
>
> If you want to be in the first upload of the
> complete tuning archive and haven't
> asked to be included yet, please contact
> me to give your permission:
>
> Robert Walker
> tuning_archivie@robertinventor.com

Hello Robert.
I just want to say that I'd be also glad to see my posts in the archive
though I don't write as often as some others. When the ".zip" will be ready,
please let me know. Thanks.
Petr

Hello Petr

> I just want to say that I'd be also glad to see my posts in the archive
> though I don't write as often as some others. When the ".zip" will be ready,
> please let me know. Thanks.

Rightio, I've added you to the list. I'll post an announcement here
when the zip is ready.

Actually, come to think of it, maybe I should have an announcement
list for uploads of the tuning archive. Naturally I'll announce
it here but with the volume of traffic here it is easy
to miss anouncements at times when you only have a few minutes
in the day to read the e-mails. If anyone wants to be sent
announcements separately then let me know.

Just e-mail again to
tuning_archive@robertinventor.com

to say you want to be sent an e-mail when I upload
the archive or zip, and say which archives you
want to be notified for

tuning, tuning-math or harmonic-entropy
I think are the main lists.

There's makemicromusic too but as that
consists of more ephemeral posts a lot
of the time - about composition
in progress and comments on a piece
recently uploaded which may only
be available for a month or two,
and so forth, I don't know if I need
to do that.

Robert

From: "Robert Walker" <robertwalker@n>

> Just e-mail again to
> tuning_archive@robertinventor.com
>
> to say you want to be sent an e-mail when I upload
> the archive or zip, and say which archives you
> want to be notified for
>
> tuning, tuning-math or harmonic-entropy
> I think are the main lists.

I'm interested mainly in this particular tuning list, the two others are not
so important for me.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Petr Parízek <p.parizek@w...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_54634.html#54705

> From: "Robert Walker" <robertwalker@n>
>
> > Just e-mail again to
> > tuning_archive@r...
> >
> > to say you want to be sent an e-mail when I upload
> > the archive or zip, and say which archives you
> > want to be notified for
> >
> > tuning, tuning-math or harmonic-entropy
> > I think are the main lists.
>
> I'm interested mainly in this particular tuning list, the two
others are not
> so important for me.

***Great! This is the "grandaddy" of them all and the most general
in terms of overall content. It used to be the *only* list, as you
might be aware.

Now we have the "left wing" and the "right wing"
with "MakeMicroMusic" on one end and "Tuning Math" on the other....

(I don't know which is left and right wing... this is only
metaphorical... :)

JP