Re:Consonance chord progressions.

Stephen (or whoever was asking the question, I'm not quite sure),

I think I understand what you're looking for, if so I hope the
following helps.

If you want to understand what a song (or composition) is doing, you
should study musical form. That's a large portion of music theory,
in fact you could spend an entire career dedicated to the subject.
The best theory that I've found was developed by a German named
Schenker. In his theory, there is an archetypal melody/harmony
pattern, which is used in all 'tonal' compositions by melodically
and/or harmonically developing the archetype. His theories have
helped me improve my compositions (and he got me interested in music
tuning, yea!).

I'm warning you, it's difficult to understand. You don't read books
on Schenkerian analysis, you study them. A good starting book (for
me anyways) is "Structural Hearing" by Felix Salzer. You'll need a
lot of other books too to help explain all the concepts, but this
one is a good guide.

Evan

P.S. A good overview is also at www.schenkerguide.com

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> Stephen (or whoever was asking the question, I'm not quite sure),
>
> I think I understand what you're looking for, if so I hope the
> following helps.
>
> If you want to understand what a song (or composition) is doing,
you
> should study musical form. That's a large portion of music theory,
> in fact you could spend an entire career dedicated to the subject.
> The best theory that I've found was developed by a German named
> Schenker. In his theory, there is an archetypal melody/harmony
> pattern, which is used in all 'tonal' compositions by melodically
> and/or harmonically developing the archetype. His theories have
> helped me improve my compositions (and he got me interested in
music
> tuning, yea!).
>
> I'm warning you, it's difficult to understand. You don't read
books
> on Schenkerian analysis, you study them. A good starting book (for
> me anyways) is "Structural Hearing" by Felix Salzer. You'll need a
> lot of other books too to help explain all the concepts, but this
> one is a good guide.
>
> Evan
>
> P.S. A good overview is also at www.schenkerguide.com

***In *my* opinion, before he starts with Schenker, Stephen should
read some basic tonal theory books such as Allen Forte's _Tonal
Harmony in Concept and Practice_.

The best book on musical *form* I ever read was Hugo Leichtentritt's
_Musical Form_...

J. Pehrson

In a message dated 2004:01:10 04:20:46 PM, joey p. writes:

>***In *my* opinion, before he starts with Schenker, Stephen should
>read some basic tonal theory books such as Allen Forte's _Tonal
>Harmony in Concept and Practice_.

And Mathieu's _Harmonic Experience_. (Stephen, Mathieu covers the
intersections & differences of 12tET and some - 5-limit JI mainly - microtonality...
with plenti diagrams and examples...
It's the book I use to help some of my rock music hausmates with their
music studies: "Here! See this chapter on 7ths?... see diagrams? Now leave me
alone - I am having music theory headaches myself that make yours seem like a
fuckin' partytimes..."

>The best book on musical *form* I ever read was Hugo Leichtentritt's
>_Musical Form_...

My favourite all-round basic intro book to music - that has very lil of
either Eurocentric gooselocksteppin' or PC platypussyin' - is David Reck's
_Music of the Whole Earth_. IMHO it's worth it just for the photos of instruments
from all over this mudball... & for the general descriptions and neat diagrams
of various "non-Western" musical forms...

-|-|--|---|-----|--------|-------------|
Hanuman Zhang, heeding the Call(ing) to Divine Chaos & Creation

_NADA BRAHMA_ < Sanskrit > "sound = Godhead"

"You breathe redemption, motive, power, You're elemental, super-collider
yeah tenn0!, You are air and earth, fire and ocean, You are Word, You are
tenn0 tenn0!" - mortal "tenn0"

_LILA_ < Sanskrit >
1. the universe is what happens when God wants to play - Divine Play -
the play of the Divine in its Cosmic Dance, whimsy - like a child playing alone
God the Cosmic Dancer - whose routine is all creatures and all worlds - the
Cosmos flows - a world from the tireless unending resistless stream of God's
energy that _is_ Lila
2. joyous exercise of spontaneity involved in the art of creation this is
also Lila

"A constellation is basially a conical chunk of stars with the apex at Earth

with an arbitrary space angle." - Andreas Johansson

"...divine chaos ...rumors of chaos have been known to enhance the
...vision.... for the godhead manifests no more of its reality than the limited
grammar of each person's imagination and conceptual system can handle. A second
advantage is suggested by William James in _Varieties of Religious Experience_.
James affirms the possibilty of many gods, mostly because he takes seriously
his multiverse theory of personal monads, each one of us experiencing a
unique... revelation. An orderly monistic and monotheistic system, he fears, might
succumb to a craving for logical coherence, and trim away some of the mystery,
rich indeterminancy, and tragic ambiguity in a complete numinous experience.
For some temperaments, the ambivalent gentleness and savagery of fate can be
imagined effectively in a godhead split into personified attributes, sometimes
at war, sometimes in shifting alliance." - Vernon Ruland, _Eight Sacred
Horizons: The Religious Imagination East and West_

"We bow to the _satvika_ Shiva
Whose _angika_ is the body
Whose _vachika_ is the entire language
Whose _aharya_ is the moon and the stars"

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "o2b_bambooguy" <send2evan@h...> wrote:
> Stephen (or whoever was asking the question, I'm not quite sure),
>
> I think I understand what you're looking for, if so I hope the
> following helps.
>
> If you want to understand what a song (or composition) is doing,
you
> should study musical form. That's a large portion of music theory,
> in fact you could spend an entire career dedicated to the subject.
> The best theory that I've found was developed by a German named
> Schenker. In his theory, there is an archetypal melody/harmony
> pattern, which is used in all 'tonal' compositions by melodically
> and/or harmonically developing the archetype. His theories have
> helped me improve my compositions (and he got me interested in
music
> tuning, yea!).
>
> I'm warning you, it's difficult to understand. You don't read
books
> on Schenkerian analysis, you study them. A good starting book (for
> me anyways) is "Structural Hearing" by Felix Salzer. You'll need a
> lot of other books too to help explain all the concepts, but this
> one is a good guide.
>
> Evan
>
> P.S. A good overview is also at www.schenkerguide.com

Stephen writes::::::::::::::::::::

I'm not big on studying but I have taken down your book
suggestion to my personal notebook. I appreciate your advice
and concern.

Regards,

stephen_szpak@hotmail.com

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, czhang23@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2004:01:10 04:20:46 PM, joey p. writes:
>
> >***In *my* opinion, before he starts with Schenker, Stephen should
> >read some basic tonal theory books such as Allen Forte's _Tonal
> >Harmony in Concept and Practice_.
>
> And Mathieu's _Harmonic Experience_. (Stephen, Mathieu covers
the
> intersections & differences of 12tET and some - 5-limit JI mainly -
microtonality...
> with plenti diagrams and examples...
> It's the book I use to help some of my rock music hausmates
with their
> music studies: "Here! See this chapter on 7ths?... see diagrams?
Now leave me
> alone - I am having music theory headaches myself that make yours
seem like a
> fuckin' partytimes..."
>
> >The best book on musical *form* I ever read was Hugo
Leichtentritt's
> >_Musical Form_...
>
> My favourite all-round basic intro book to music - that has
very lil of
> either Eurocentric gooselocksteppin' or PC platypussyin' - is David
Reck's
> _Music of the Whole Earth_. IMHO it's worth it just for the photos
of instruments
> from all over this mudball... & for the general descriptions and
neat diagrams
> of various "non-Western" musical forms...
>
>
Stephen writes::::::::::::::

Joey

Thank you for the book suggestions. I have written them
down in my notebook.

stephen_szpak@hotmail.com