Re: universal notation for J.Pehrson

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "stephenszpak" <stephen_szpak@h...>

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wrote:
>
> (I must first say that I haven't had the time to read the most
> recent posts.)
> I have just come up with a way to notate 15 EDO and have already
> become somewhat attached to it. (Though I might be open to other
> ways of notation even at this date.)
> I'm just going to throw this out to the group...What if there was
> a software (freeware) program that would automatically take any
> notation and convert it to what I (or someone else) has gotten
> used to. Coming up with a one size fits all approach may be the
> best idea, but then again there is Esperanto. Proposed in 1887, it
> was supposed to be the universal spoken and written language. Dr.
> L. L. Zamenhof took parts of several languages and made one. Does
> anyone you know speak Esperanto?
> My idea is to have software (any programmers out there) that
> would take a 4 digit microprinted number next to a note. [look at
> a new 20 dollar bill, go to the right of the lower left number'20'
> to see "The United States of America..." to see how small and
> unobtrusive microprinting can be.] The microprinting would be read
> by the software and converted to the composers own format. The 4
> digit number would be the number of cents up from the tonic that
> the note in question is.
> Over time (50 years?) I would think one or two standards for
> 15 EDO (and all other EDO's) would emerge on their own just
> because some are logical and most aren't.
>
> Stephen Szpak

***I guess this might be possible, but I don't really see the utility
for it since people, most notably Dave Keenan and George Secor, who
have *lots* of experience, are designing an overall system (called
Sagittal) that does this very thing. I would seriously consider
Dave's suggestions regarding the notation of 15-tET and you should
post your *own* system to this forum. I almost *guarantee* that
there will be reasons why the Keenan/Secor system will be better.
(I'll take bets now...)

Also, it's a little silly not to just use cents notation directly, if
that's the kind of notation you want. This is the approach used by
Johnny Reinhard... just using cents values above the pitches, and he
considers it a *universal* system, so there is really no reason why a
*computer* needs to do it.

Computers are great, but they don't have to butt into
*everything... :)

J. Pehrson

J. Pehrson

I'll have to look at these other systems eventually. But what I was trying to say is if
all the notes had a cent value (and a octave number) , 2-0100 for example, would be
octave 2, the C#. Then this designation could be used for any format. In other words
if someone sets up 15 EDO with 3 groups of 5 lines and someone else does something
totally different, the software could in theory, take one and convert to the other.
I suppose my comments are based on more ignorance than knowledge. Do you at
least see where I'm coming from in this message?

Stephen Szpak

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--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Szpak" <stephen_szpak@h...>

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>
> J. Pehrson
>
> I'll have to look at these other systems eventually. But what
I was
> trying to say is if
> all the notes had a cent value (and a octave number) , 2-0100
for
> example, would be
> octave 2, the C#. Then this designation could be used for any
format. In
> other words
> if someone sets up 15 EDO with 3 groups of 5 lines and someone
else does
> something
> totally different, the software could in theory, take one and
convert to
> the other.
> I suppose my comments are based on more ignorance than
knowledge. Do
> you at
> least see where I'm coming from in this message?
>
> Stephen Szpak
>

***Why sure, that's understandable. But, we live in the present, and
I thought you were interested in finding a decent notation for 15-EDO
*right now...* Dave Keenan gave you some excellent suggestions and
the alternative is the more scale-directed (and
less "generalized") "Porcupine" that Herman Miller came up with...

J. Pehrson