[tuning] Re: 15 EDO notation J.P.

Joseph Pehrson

Thanks for putting up the 15 EDO notation on-line for me. I can't see how taking a "B" ,
putting a flat sign to the left of it, and then putting a up arrow with a circle in its center to
its left
is supposed to help anyone. What is this note? I assume its 800,880,960, or 1040 cents
up from the tonic (if tonic is "C"). How many people do you think actually read music
notated in this form? Is it common?

> i have the score of his _Microtonal Etudes_, but unfortunately
> my old scanner doesn't work with my new computer.
>

***My scanner is working, so here it is. I've put it over on "Tuning
Files" since there is, obviously, no file space here...:

/tuning/files/Pehrson/

J. Pehrson

Stephen Szpak

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--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Szpak" <stephen_szpak@h...>

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wrote:
>
>
> Joseph Pehrson
>
> Thanks for putting up the 15 EDO notation on-line for me. I
can't see
> how taking a "B" ,
> putting a flat sign to the left of it, and then putting a up
arrow with a
> circle in its center to
> its left
> is supposed to help anyone. What is this note? I assume its
800,880,960,
> or 1040 cents
> up from the tonic (if tonic is "C"). How many people do you
think
> actually read music
> notated in this form? Is it common?
>

***Hi Stephen!

Glad you're showing up again...

The answer to your question is, basically, *no*.... I don't think
people actually read music in this form and it is decidedly *not*
common.

In fact, as even Carl Lumma attests, I think the Blackwood notation
is a mess and I wouldn't pay any attention to it, other to see it as
a kind of curiousity or eccentricity.

Maybe Monzo can figure out how it works. He likes "eccentric"
things, sometimes.

I had even emailed Blackwood to try to figure out how his systems
worked, and he never answered me back.

I suppose if I spent hours (which I don't have) pouring over this, I
*might* be able to figure it out.

Really I think notation should be simpler than this.

So essentially, Stephen, you're *on your own* with this. There is no
confirmed and decent notational paradigm for 15-tET, so maybe you can
try to invent one yourself??

You'll most probably be the first person to do a good one...

best,

Joseph Pehrson

> Thanks for putting up the 15 EDO notation on-line for me. I can't
>see how taking a "B", putting a flat sign to the left of it, and then
>putting a up arrow with a circle in its center to its left is supposed
>to help anyone.

Tell me about it.

>What is this note? I assume its 800, 880, 960, or 1040 cents
>up from the tonic (if tonic is "C"). How many people do you think
>actually read music notated in this form? Is it common?

Oh no, quite uncommon. But the guitarist who performed the guitar
suite read it.

-Carl

>Maybe Monzo can figure out how it works. He likes "eccentric"
>things, sometimes.
>
>I had even emailed Blackwood to try to figure out how his systems
>worked, and he never answered me back.

It's explained quite clearly in his article on 15-tET, which I
have here, and probably also in his book (IIRC). If anyone
really wants to know I'll post on it. But...

>Really I think notation should be simpler than this.

Well that we can agree on.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@l...> wrote:

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> >Maybe Monzo can figure out how it works. He likes "eccentric"
> >things, sometimes.
> >
> >I had even emailed Blackwood to try to figure out how his systems
> >worked, and he never answered me back.
>
> It's explained quite clearly in his article on 15-tET, which I
> have here, and probably also in his book (IIRC). If anyone
> really wants to know I'll post on it. But...
>

***Maybe it would be of value to post the article. On the other
hand, I don't know if we should encourage Stephen to use this
notation... How about Dave Keenan's suggestions??

JP