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Scientists Say Universe May Be Soccer-Ball Shaped

🔗Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@yahoo.com>

10/9/2003 7:32:50 PM

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OK: Kepler and Pythagoras were right, after-all!

Science - Reuters

Scientists Say Universe May Be Soccer-Ball Shaped
Wed Oct 8, 2:16 PM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists said Wednesday the universe could be
spherical and patched together like a soccer ball -- and it may not be
infinite.

Jeffrey Weeks, a MacArthur Fellow based in Canton, New York, and
researchers from the University of Paris and Observatory of Paris
analyzed astronomical data which suggests the universe is finite and
made of curved pentagons joined together into a ball.

In research reported in the science journal Nature on Wednesday, the
scientists said data from NASA (news - web sites)'s Wilkinson Microwave
Anisotrophy Probe (WMAP), which maps background radiation left over
from the Big Bang, is not consistent with an infinite universe. "Since
antiquity, humans have wondered whether our universe is finite or
infinite. Now, after more than two millennia of speculation,
observational data might finally settle the ancient question," Weeks
said.

In a commentary on the research, George Ellis of the University of Cape
Town in South Africa, said if Weeks and his colleagues are correct we
might indeed live in a small, closed universe.

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🔗Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@yahoo.com>

10/9/2003 8:06:51 PM

In my papers
BODE'S LAW EXPLAINED and ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER,
note the column 0,3,6,9,12,24,45,90,180,270,360, and note
that Kepler's shelled dodecahedrons fit the new predicted
analysis by modern astronomy, and thus the universe squares
the circle!

MUSIC OF THE SPHERES IS NEXT, as in "Play It Again, Monz!"

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Hi, Spacepeople.

Looks interesting, and some of you might be interested
in my work, particularly on BODE'S LAW EXPLAINED and
ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER. By way of introduction,
here are two posts, and some URLs, and I am willing to
respond to any and all questions.

Message 67 to Celestial-Tuning@yahoogroups.com
From: Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 1, 2002 11:57 pm
Subject: Sunspot cycles, Weather and planetary synodic cycles

As a contributing science writer to the Foundation for the Study
of Cycles in the 1970s I wrote a number of articles on order in our
solar-planetary system, mainly on perceived correlation of the
sunspot cycle, weather and planetary synodic cycles round the sun.

An axiom of physics that should not be overlooked in any application
of mathematics to things in reality is that the general laws apply
universally. (See my previous papers in the Bulletin: "Bode's Law
Explained," Cycles 30: 82, 1979, and "On the Special Theory of
Order," Cycles 36: 219, 1985.) Therefore, if the clock pattern is
applied to our solar-planetary system--both systems involve objects
in 360-degree motion around their respective centers--any two planets
will cross only a certain number of times. Thereafter, the pattern
repeats. (see my paper: "Why the sunspot cycle 22 years long?"
Cycles 46: 3, 1996.)

As I pointed out in my previously cited papers, the primary cause of
the full-wave 22-year sunspot cycle is the Saturn-Uranus synodic
cycle. These two planets cross "only 22 times" before the pattern
repeats.

Whereas a clock has only two hands, the solar-planetary system is not
made up of a mere two planets; the cumulative effect of each set of
two planets must be computed as they relate to the others. In
addition, the solar-planetary electrical and magnetic field in which
the multitude of planets move and cross, is, itself, in motion with
respect to the center of the galaxy. Also, the planets are
precessing with respect to the distant star field. Consequently, our
solar-planetary system will not behave as methematically precise as a
clock. Indeed, each individual 22-year cycle varies immensely, from
about 20.8 to about 27 years.

In The Old Farmer's Almanac 1981, Guy Murchie popularized my theory
by reference to my publications, asking: "Is there order among the
planets? Or, as Pythagoras once put it, is there Music in the
Spheres?"

I published Arnold's Law in 1979, as follows:

Bodies_Proportion___Degreed Arcs___Fraction___Ideal Mean**
Or Perimeter

Sun__________0___________0________0____________0
Mercury______1___________3_____1/120______3.14 X10(7th)miles
Venus________2___________6______1/60______6.28
Earth________3___________9______1/40______9.42
Mars_________4__________12______1/30_____12.56
Ceres*_______8__________24______1/15_____25.13
Jupiter_____15__________45______1/8______47.12
Saturn______30__________90______1/4______94.24
Uranus______60_________180______1/2_____188.49
Neptune_____90_________270______3/4_____282.74
Pluto______120_________360______4/4_____376.99

*Ceres: prime representative of so-called "asteroids"

**means: adjusted for diameters of both bodies, sun and planet

In conclusion, I urge interested readers to review the detailed
heliocentric data and patterns pub lished in my earlier papers.
Perhaps someone can generate a full-scale computer analysis to
confirm why the sunspot cycle averages 22 years.

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Message 66 to Celestial-tuning@yahoogroups.com
From: Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 1, 2002 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER

Norman Winski writes, "Martin, Have you read John Nelson's or Jane
Blizard's work on the correlation of planetary positions with Solar
activity? Please comment."

Martin writes, "the alignment of planets could not and does not
affect sunspot activity or the weather."

Gary Vezzoli writes, "Dear Bill -- The sun's tides are indeed very
small but not negligible, constituting about one-tenth the tidal
effect of the moon. The sun's effect of about 1 part in 10^8 is
still, I believe large enough to cause a change in the bond angle of
water, and can theoretically affect the DNA that it sheathes. Your
solar sunspot cycle work seems interesting and I would like to learn
more about your interpretations and hypothesis."

My paper "On the Special Theory of Order" cover pages 219 to 232,
Cycles Bulletin, Vol. XXXVI, No. 9, December 1985, with
illustrations, charts, and drawings, and here is the Table of
Contents and Abstract:

Table of Contents

I Abstract
II Introduction, Electro-Magnetic Nature of the Solar Wind
III Analysis of the Primary 22-Year Sunspot Cycle, See figure 1
IV Analysis of the Nile Flood Cycle, see Figure 1
V Analysis of the Secondary 100-Year Sunspot Cycle and the 100-Year

Weather Cycle, see Figure 1 and Schedule 1
VI Analysis of the Primary 22-Year Sunspot Cycle Nodes, see Schedule
1
VII Theory of a Special Order, see Figures 2, 3, 4 and 5
VII EMF (electro-magnetic force) Mechanism of a Galactic-Solar-
Planetary System Postulated, see Figure 6
IX Philosophical Considerations on an Ordered Galactic-Solar-
Planetary System
X Bibliography

I. ABSTRACT

On the Special Theory of Order postulates Order. It holds that the
physical laws of reality, known as "physics" in the realm of Science,
extend into deep space. Certainly, they extend from the center of
our own Milky Way galaxy to the center of our own Solar-Planetary
System, the Sun. A Special Order on a cosmic scale, as demonstrated
by this paper, is observed in the positive Correlation between the
Sunspot, the Weather and the Planetary Cycles. In a previous paper
on Solar-Planetary System Order (in CYCLES, "Bode's Law Explained,"
1979) this author demonstrated ordinal Proportionality between
planetary average distances from the Sun. In this present treatise,
when planetary synodic cycles are oriented to the Galactic-Solar Axis
(266-degrees to 86-degrees), a positive correlation is shown to exist
between these mechanical events and subsequent electro-magnetic data
observed in the Sunspot cycle and earthly Weather cycles. An emf
(electro-magnetic force) mechanism is postulated, and supported by
the work of Hale, Nicholson, Ellerman, Joy, Slurzberg and Osterheld,
Sheeley, Parker, Van Allen, Chambers, Nelson, Jones, Bray and
Loughead, and will account for the modulated cycle effects, supported
by the work of Dewey, Shirk, Jarvis, Ludwig, Eddy and Hand. The
Special Theory of Order about the mechanism of our Galactic-Solar
Planetary System with the planets acting as conductor-inductors
within the solar wind field when oriented to the Galactic center now
appears more evident, suggesing a Special Order from the Macrocosm
down to the micro.
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> Here are some URLs:
>
> Subject: Re: Sunspot cycles, Weather and planetary synodic cycles
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3829
>
> Subject: ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3860
>
> Subject: Re: ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3865
>
> Subject: Re: ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3866
>
> Subject: Re: ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3867
>
> Subject: Re: ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3877
>
> Subject: Re: [cyclesi] Re: ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3878
>
> Subject: Re: ON THE SPECIAL THEORY OF ORDER
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3880
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Piano Tuning
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3905
>
> Subject: Re: Piano Tuning
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3913
>
> Subject: Re: Piano Tuning
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3915
>
> Subject: Re: Piano Tuning
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3918
>
> Subject: Re: Piano Tuning
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3921
>
> Subject: "BODE'S LAW EXPLAINED"
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3929
>
> Subject: Re: Piano tuning and "BODE'S LAW EXPLAINED"
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3930
>
> Subject: Re: Piano tuning and "BODE'S LAW EXPLAINED" II
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3936
>
> Subject: Re: [physicsdebate] Re: T E M P O R A L D Y N A M I C S
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3957
>
> Subject: Re: Space-Time-Speed Distance Continuum Formula
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3959
>
> Subject: Re: Space-Time-Speed Distance Continuum Formula & C Scale
Music of Spheres
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3960
>
> Subject: Re: COGS & CHAIN-LINKS: Space-Time-Speed Distance Continuum
Formula & C Scale
> Music of Spheres II
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3964
>
> Subject: Re: COGS & CHAIN-LINKS: Space-Time-Speed Distance Continuum
Formula & C & F
> Scale Music of Spheres II
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3970
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Survey: Your favorite sizes for thirds?
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3980
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Everyone Concerned
> /cyclesi/topicId_unknown.html#3982
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Everyone Concerned
> /tuning/topicId_38587.html#39732
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Survey: Your favorite sizes for thirds?
> /tuning/topicId_39612.html#39734
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Survey: Your favorite sizes for thirds?
> /tuning/topicId_39612.html#39735
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning-math] [tuning] Re: Everyone Concerned
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39746
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning-math] [tuning] Re: Everyone Concerned
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39774
>
> Subject: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39791
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39805
>
> Subject: For Bill: Sphere Music?
> /tuning/topicId_39806.html#39810
>
> Subject: Re: For Bill: Sphere Music?
> /tuning/topicId_39806.html#39824
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39825
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39826
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39877
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39878
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39911
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#39946
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#40105
>
> Subject: Re: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
> /tuning/topicId_39746.html#40186
>
> Subject: Music of The Spheres and Bill Arnold's numbers
> /tuning/topicId_40207.html#40207
>
>

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🔗earth7 <earth7@optonline.net>

10/10/2003 5:54:41 AM

HI Bill,

> George Ellis of the University of Cape Town
> in South Africa, said if Weeks and his colleagues are correct
>we might indeed live in a small, closed universe.

Very interesting article Bill. Thank you.

Here's some interesting humor please.

What do you think George Ellis's definition of "small" is? A small closed
universe is not a concern for common everyday people I bet.

I take my kid to soccer practice which is located just alittle ways up the
road from my house. That's about the extent of my weekly travels. Therefore
my town looks reeeeal big. Whatever.........

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Subject: [celestial-tuning] Scientists Say Universe May Be Soccer-Ball
Shaped

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spacepeople@yahoogroups.com

OK: Kepler and Pythagoras were right, after-all!

Science - Reuters

Scientists Say Universe May Be Soccer-Ball Shaped
Wed Oct 8, 2:16 PM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists said Wednesday the universe could be
spherical and patched together like a soccer ball -- and it may not be
infinite.

Jeffrey Weeks, a MacArthur Fellow based in Canton, New York, and
researchers from the University of Paris and Observatory of Paris
analyzed astronomical data which suggests the universe is finite and
made of curved pentagons joined together into a ball.

In research reported in the science journal Nature on Wednesday, the
scientists said data from NASA (news - web sites)'s Wilkinson Microwave
Anisotrophy Probe (WMAP), which maps background radiation left over
from the Big Bang, is not consistent with an infinite universe. "Since
antiquity, humans have wondered whether our universe is finite or
infinite. Now, after more than two millennia of speculation,
observational data might finally settle the ancient question," Weeks
said.

In a commentary on the research, George Ellis of the University of Cape
Town in South Africa, said
In a commentary on the research, George Ellis of the University of Cape
Town in South Africa, said if Weeks and his colleagues are correct we
might indeed live in a small, closed universe.

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🔗Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@yahoo.com>

10/11/2003 5:02:22 AM

SOCCER-BALL SHAPED UNIVERSE PREDICTED BY PYTHAGORAS
AND KEPLER. Well, small means small, relatively
speaking of course. It is certainly *not* infinite,
as suggested by rest of modern science if these
theoretical scientists are found to be accurate
in their measurements. As we *live* on the
surface of a sphere, and Pythagoras *saw* the moon
as a sphere and the earth casting a spherical shape
at eclipse, it is not surprising early theorists
in Egypt and Greece were into spherical shapes.

Hey: even Einstein predicted space was spherical,
that is, *curved* and therefore the galactical star
field can easily be seen to be on a curved surface
with a *black hole* or whatever at its center. All
this stuff about an expanding universe begs the
question, if infinite, expanding *into* what?

Thus, if the universe is *small* and shaped like
a sphere, it only suggests that the universe if
*not* infinite. We are on the surface of a
GALACTIC SHIELD SHPHERICAL IN SHAPE. And beyond
*our* universe are probably *other* universes.
Therefore, we need to adjust our thinking, and
accept the fact that we cannot *see* all, nor
comprehend all. Universes are as suggested by
the GREAT CHAIN OF BEING merely *beings* in the
great chain, *out* there in curved or spherical
space.

Hence, we are indeed *small* in comparison.

Bill

--- In celestial-tuning@yahoogroups.com, earth7 <earth7@o...> wrote:
> HI Bill,
>
> > George Ellis of the University of Cape Town
> > in South Africa, said if Weeks and his colleagues are correct
> >we might indeed live in a small, closed universe.
>
> Very interesting article Bill. Thank you.
>
> Here's some interesting humor please.
>
> What do you think George Ellis's definition of "small" is? A small
closed
> universe is not a concern for common everyday people I bet.
>
> I take my kid to soccer practice which is located just alittle ways
up the
> road from my house. That's about the extent of my weekly travels.
Therefore
> my town looks reeeeal big. Whatever.........
>
>

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🔗Aaron K. Johnson <akjmicro@comcast.net>

10/11/2003 10:51:48 AM

Is this tuning@yahoogroups.com, or cosmology@yahoogroups.com?

-Aaron Krister Johnson

On Saturday 11 October 2003 07:02 am, Bill Arnold wrote:
> SOCCER-BALL SHAPED UNIVERSE PREDICTED BY PYTHAGORAS
> AND KEPLER. Well, small means small, relatively
> speaking of course. It is certainly *not* infinite,
> as suggested by rest of modern science if these
> theoretical scientists are found to be accurate
> in their measurements. As we *live* on the
> surface of a sphere, and Pythagoras *saw* the moon
> as a sphere and the earth casting a spherical shape
> at eclipse, it is not surprising early theorists
> in Egypt and Greece were into spherical shapes.
>
> Hey: even Einstein predicted space was spherical,
> that is, *curved* and therefore the galactical star
> field can easily be seen to be on a curved surface
> with a *black hole* or whatever at its center. All
> this stuff about an expanding universe begs the
> question, if infinite, expanding *into* what?
>
> Thus, if the universe is *small* and shaped like
> a sphere, it only suggests that the universe if
> *not* infinite. We are on the surface of a
> GALACTIC SHIELD SHPHERICAL IN SHAPE. And beyond
> *our* universe are probably *other* universes.
> Therefore, we need to adjust our thinking, and
> accept the fact that we cannot *see* all, nor
> comprehend all. Universes are as suggested by
> the GREAT CHAIN OF BEING merely *beings* in the
> great chain, *out* there in curved or spherical
> space.
>
> Hence, we are indeed *small* in comparison.
>
> Bill
>
> --- In celestial-tuning@yahoogroups.com, earth7 <earth7@o...> wrote:
> > HI Bill,
> >
> > > George Ellis of the University of Cape Town
> > > in South Africa, said if Weeks and his colleagues are correct
> > >we might indeed live in a small, closed universe.
> >
> > Very interesting article Bill. Thank you.
> >
> > Here's some interesting humor please.
> >
> > What do you think George Ellis's definition of "small" is? A small
>
> closed
>
> > universe is not a concern for common everyday people I bet.
> >
> > I take my kid to soccer practice which is located just alittle ways
>
> up the
>
> > road from my house. That's about the extent of my weekly travels.
>
> Therefore
>
> > my town looks reeeeal big. Whatever.........
>
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10/12/2003 7:43:45 AM

Greetings,
-Aaron Krister Johnson writes:

>>Is this tuning@yahoogroups.com, or cosmology@yahoogroups.com?

Perhaps there is some overlap......

"The physical Universe is an aggregate of frequencies. Each chemical
element is uniquely identifiable in the electromagnetic specturm by its
special set of unique frequencies. These frequency sets interact to produce
more
complexly unique cycle frequencies, which are unheard by human ear
but which resonate just as do humanly hearable musical chords or dissonances.
Thus occurs a great cosmic orchestration, ranging from the microcosmic
nuclear isotropicity -- directly undetectable by the human senses -- through
the minuscule range detectable by humans, to the very complex macrocosmic,
supra-to-human-tunability symphonies of multiaggregates of isotropically
interpositioned galaxies."
R. Buckminster Fuller

Ed Foote RPT
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www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html
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🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@lumma.org>

10/12/2003 1:10:09 PM

> Perhaps there is some overlap......
>
>"The physical Universe is an aggregate of frequencies. Each chemical
>element is uniquely identifiable in the electromagnetic spectrum

There's always *some* overlap.

-Carl

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@svpal.org>

10/12/2003 4:59:41 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@l...> wrote:
> > Perhaps there is some overlap......
> >
> >"The physical Universe is an aggregate of frequencies. Each
chemical
> >element is uniquely identifiable in the electromagnetic spectrum
>
> There's always *some* overlap.

Anyone tried the hydrogen atom scale yet for music?

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@rcn.com>

10/12/2003 5:43:57 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@l...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_47812.html#47882

> > > Perhaps there is some overlap......
> > >
> > >"The physical Universe is an aggregate of frequencies. Each
> chemical
> > >element is uniquely identifiable in the electromagnetic spectrum
> >
> > There's always *some* overlap.
>
> Anyone tried the hydrogen atom scale yet for music?

***Wasn't that "La Mer?"

JP

🔗Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@yahoo.com>

10/12/2003 6:19:10 PM

Carl.

So what *are* you saying, without saying it?

You want overlap, or lapping dogs?

Bill

===================================================

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@l...> wrote:
> > Perhaps there is some overlap......
> >
> >"The physical Universe is an aggregate of frequencies. Each
chemical
> >element is uniquely identifiable in the electromagnetic spectrum
>
> There's always *some* overlap.
>
> -Carl

🔗Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@yahoo.com>

10/12/2003 6:20:34 PM

Hi, Gene.

I think you are *on target*
but then there are others who disagree.

Bill

==================================================

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@l...> wrote:
> > > Perhaps there is some overlap......
> > >
> > >"The physical Universe is an aggregate of frequencies. Each
> chemical
> > >element is uniquely identifiable in the electromagnetic spectrum
> >
> > There's always *some* overlap.
>
> Anyone tried the hydrogen atom scale yet for music?

🔗Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@yahoo.com>

10/12/2003 6:27:33 PM

Hi, Aaron.

Come join celestial-tuning@yahoo.com
so Jon won't get upset.

I do feel you are on-topic and that
your post is about tuning and all it
pretends to be about.

Bill

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--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, a440a@a... wrote:
> Greetings,
> -Aaron Krister Johnson writes:
>
>
> >>Is this tuning@yahoogroups.com, or cosmology@yahoogroups.com?
>
>
> Perhaps there is some overlap......
>
> "The physical Universe is an aggregate of frequencies. Each
chemical
> element is uniquely identifiable in the electromagnetic specturm by
its
> special set of unique frequencies. These frequency sets interact
to produce
> more
> complexly unique cycle frequencies, which are unheard by human ear
> but which resonate just as do humanly hearable musical chords or
dissonances.
> Thus occurs a great cosmic orchestration, ranging from the
microcosmic
> nuclear isotropicity -- directly undetectable by the human senses --
through
> the minuscule range detectable by humans, to the very complex
macrocosmic,
> supra-to-human-tunability symphonies of multiaggregates of
isotropically
> interpositioned galaxies."
> R. Buckminster Fuller
>
> Ed Foote RPT
> www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/
> www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html
> <A
HREF="http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/399/six_degrees_of_tonality.html
">
> MP3.com: Six Degrees of Tonality</A>

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@lumma.org>

10/13/2003 4:20:46 PM

>If so, it is
>a mistake to say the universe is connected "like a soccer ball".

And looking up at the subject line, it doesn't say connected, but
"shaped". Connecting the faces of a dodec does not mean you are
shaped like a dodec!

-Carl