give me another head! [Sagittal]

Quite frankly, I think I would be happy with the Sagittal notation
for 72-tET if I could be given another *double* arrowhead for the 7-
limit "33 centers..." [I don't care what side of the f*ing stem it's
on! :) ]

That's what I thought initially when I looked at the font, and was
astonished to find that the 5-limit and 7-limit arrows looked so
similar!

I understand that the *double* arrows are probably "reserved" for
something quite high and exotic, but really, they need to come back
down to earth.

I have no problem with adopting the *full arrow* as a quartertone.

So, if I could get some better differentiation, I would be very happy
to try to use this product, but until then, it's pointless and I
don't even want to put it on one of my scores in this state... :(

Thanks!

Joseph

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
> Quite frankly, I think I would be happy with the Sagittal notation
> for 72-tET if I could be given another *double* arrowhead for the 7-
> limit "33 centers..." [I don't care what side of the f*ing stem
it's
> on! :) ]
>
> That's what I thought initially when I looked at the font, and was
> astonished to find that the 5-limit and 7-limit arrows looked so
> similar!
>
> I understand that the *double* arrows are probably "reserved" for
> something quite high and exotic, but really, they need to come back
> down to earth.

If you mean the arrows with the double shafts, yes, they're reserved
for the pure sagittal notation and aren't to be used in combination
with conventional sharps and flats.

But if you mean the arrows with double left barbs, then it's
perfectly valid to use this symbol sequence for 72-ET:

/| //| /|\ for 1, 2, and 3deg up, and
\! \\! \!/ for 1, 2, and 3deg down

To see the actual symbols, find the ones numbered 4, 8, and 10 in the
right-hand portion of this graphic:

/tuning-
math/files/secor/notation/AdaptJI.gif

> I have no problem with adopting the *full arrow* as a quartertone.
>
> So, if I could get some better differentiation, I would be very
happy
> to try to use this product, but until then, it's pointless and I
> don't even want to put it on one of my scores in this state... :(

Let me know what you think of the above suggestion (but don't let on
to Dave Keenan that I told you about this, because if we ever happen
to be on the same side of the planet, I'm sure he'll kill me -- even
if it's against his principles, I know everyone has his limits).

Oh, hi Dave! Uh -- we were just talking about you. ;-)

--George

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "George D. Secor" <gdsecor@y...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_47521.html#47556

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...>
wrote:
> > Quite frankly, I think I would be happy with the Sagittal
notation
> > for 72-tET if I could be given another *double* arrowhead for the
7-
> > limit "33 centers..." [I don't care what side of the f*ing stem
> it's
> > on! :) ]
> >
> > That's what I thought initially when I looked at the font, and
was
> > astonished to find that the 5-limit and 7-limit arrows looked so
> > similar!
> >
> > I understand that the *double* arrows are probably "reserved" for
> > something quite high and exotic, but really, they need to come
back
> > down to earth.
>
> If you mean the arrows with the double shafts, yes, they're
reserved
> for the pure sagittal notation and aren't to be used in combination
> with conventional sharps and flats.
>
> But if you mean the arrows with double left barbs, then it's
> perfectly valid to use this symbol sequence for 72-ET:
>
> /| //| /|\ for 1, 2, and 3deg up, and
> \! \\! \!/ for 1, 2, and 3deg down
>
> To see the actual symbols, find the ones numbered 4, 8, and 10 in
the
> right-hand portion of this graphic:
>
> /tuning-
> math/files/secor/notation/AdaptJI.gif
>
> > I have no problem with adopting the *full arrow* as a quartertone.
> >
> > So, if I could get some better differentiation, I would be very
> happy
> > to try to use this product, but until then, it's pointless and I
> > don't even want to put it on one of my scores in this state... :(
>
> Let me know what you think of the above suggestion (but don't let
on
> to Dave Keenan that I told you about this, because if we ever
happen
> to be on the same side of the planet, I'm sure he'll kill me --
even
> if it's against his principles, I know everyone has his limits).
>
> Oh, hi Dave! Uh -- we were just talking about you. ;-)
>
> --George

***Hello George!

Well, those were not the symbols that Dave Keenan gave me for 72-
tET! This is a *much* different situation.

Yes, I *could* use the set that you are showing me above.

I don't understand what all the consternation is on the theoretical
side... but, regardless, from a *practical* standpoint, this could
work for me!!!

But, why didn't Dave show me this possibility in the first place??

Joseph