Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Scala 2.2 released

There's a new release of Scala, the awaited version 2.2 with new
graphical user interface modules. It improves the look and feel,
and is generally less buggy. Copy and paste from text fields works
now and there are many other improvements and several bug fixes.
Also many keyboard shortcuts were added (Alt-key combinations) so
you don't need to use the mouse all the time to navigate.
One of the new features is transforming a MIDI file to a Scala .seq
file, see the Tools menu.
Only the Windows version is released at the moment:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/software/Scala_Setup.exe
5 Mb.

You don't need to remove the old version, but you shouldn't
install this new version in the same directory. C:\Scala22 will be
a good place. If you installed the trial version 2.1, then remove
the complete directory before installing (unless you have saved files
in it of course). Enjoy,

Manuel

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>

🔗Justin Weaver <improvist@usa.net>

I am eagerly awaiting a Mac OS X version! - sorry, but the terminal version just
doesn't agree with me, I can't find my way through the linux platform without a
serious headache, but the program looks great in the more graphical platform-
integrated interface. -Justin

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Szanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> Manuel,
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel Op de Coul" <manuel.op.de.coul@e...>
wrote:
> >
> > There's a new release of Scala, the awaited version 2.2 with new
> > graphical user interface modules.
>
> Yet another public thanks for this program - I'm downloading it now. Would you
mind posting this at MMM, or would you like me to post the information?
>
> Cheers,
> Jon

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@sbcglobal.net>

Good job! I noticed a few significant improvements:

1) I can use the / key on the numeric keypad to input fractions,
2) the font is larger (10 point) and thus more legible,
3) if I click on an item in a menu list, it won't drop to the bottom,
4) the scroll bar is wider,
5) sagittal notation for scales up to 96-tet,
6) the color scheme is better (not all gray)

I'll be playing with it all day....

--- Manuel Op de Coul <manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com> wrote:
>
> There's a new release of Scala, the awaited version 2.2 with new
> graphical user interface modules. It improves the look and feel,
> and is generally less buggy. Copy and paste from text fields works
> now and there are many other improvements and several bug fixes.
> Also many keyboard shortcuts were added (Alt-key combinations) so
> you don't need to use the mouse all the time to navigate.
> One of the new features is transforming a MIDI file to a Scala .seq
> file, see the Tools menu.
> Only the Windows version is released at the moment:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/software/Scala_Setup.exe
> 5 Mb.
>
> You don't need to remove the old version, but you shouldn't
> install this new version in the same directory. C:\Scala22 will be
> a good place. If you installed the trial version 2.1, then remove
> the complete directory before installing (unless you have saved files
> in it of course). Enjoy,
>
> Manuel
>
>
>
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--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel Op de Coul"

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<manuel.op.de.coul@e...> wrote:
>
> There's a new release of Scala, the awaited version 2.2 with new
> graphical user interface modules. It improves the look and feel,
> and is generally less buggy. Copy and paste from text fields works
> now and there are many other improvements and several bug fixes.

***Hello Manuel!

Thanks so much for this important update! I found much increased
functionality (in Windows 98) for loading in files. I no longer had
to use a special utility for that. Before, it was virtually
impossible to load Scala files in with the interface, a pretty
rudimentary function! Now it all works well.

Another rudimentary function that I, personally, use all the time is
the *text copying* possibilities, particularly in discussion.

I'm finding this new version has this much better implemented,
although it still isn't possible on Windows just to "right click" and
copy and paste text into the buffer to use with other programs.

I would seldom want to save to a .txt file, particularly for "off the
cuff" discussions of this or that, but I'm finding that if I
select "edit text" I get *another* underlying dos-looking screen that
pops up and then *that* screen allows me to do a simple right-click
copy and paste.

So, that's pretty easy to use in any case, and a vast improvement on
using all the Robert Walter "enhancements" which I, quite frankly,
keep forgetting.

I noticed a new audio "tetrad" feature which has a graphic that, I
believe, stems from something John Chalmers was doing...

Otherwise, everything seems to work well, and I'm certain there are
many other enhancements I'll discover over time.

Congrats again!!!!

Joseph

🔗Manuel Op de Coul <manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com>

Hi Joseph,

>I'm finding this new version has this much better implemented,
>although it still isn't possible on Windows just to "right click" and
>copy and paste text into the buffer to use with other programs.

It is possible, each text entry has a right-click menu to do this.
Only the main window and command line have their own menus.
There's Paste in the command line menu, copy and cut didn't seem
too useful there. But I see what you mean, there's also no copy
in the main window, I could add that. It's just that I never do it
that way myself but just press Ctrl-C.

>I would seldom want to save to a .txt file, particularly for "off the
>cuff" discussions of this or that, but I'm finding that if I
>select "edit text" I get *another* underlying dos-looking screen that
>pops up and then *that* screen allows me to do a simple right-click
>copy and paste.

So selecting text and pressing Ctrl-C is easier.

>I noticed a new audio "tetrad" feature which has a graphic that, I
>believe, stems from something John Chalmers was doing...

Yes indeed, it's from the cover of his book. Not so new anymore
though.

>Congrats again!!!!

Thanks.

Manuel

🔗Carlos <garciasuarez@ya.com>

🔗Paul Erlich <perlich@aya.yale.edu>

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@rcn.com>

🔗Dave Keenan <D.KEENAN@UQ.NET.AU>

> Danny Wier wrote:
...
> >5) sagittal notation for scales up to 96-tet,

Yes, it has all but a few of the more obscure ETs up to 96, and we
have the athenian (medium precision) sagittal notation for JI.

But when we say "medium precision", in fact the sagittal JI notations
have absolute precision for the primary comma role of each symbol. For
example, the 11-limit diamond and several other common ratios are
expressed with absolute precision in athenian. Other ratios, and
irrational pitches, are then expressed by reusing symbols, such that
the error is no more than about 3 cents. The Herculean and Olympian JI
notations (still under development) have progressively more symbols
and can therefore notate higher odd-limits and harmonics perfectly,
and have even lower errors for any others.

Similarly we intend to forge on with notations for certain important
ETs up to at least 612.

With very few exceptions, the sagittal symbols have the same primary
meaning in all notations, as commas for specific ratios. But users who
don't care about ratios are free to think of them in terms of specific
fractions of a tone or semitone or specific numbers of steps.

Manuel Op de Coul wrote:
> A word of caution, a large part of the Sagittal notation is
> still under development. Don't use SAJI2 and SAJI3 in particular
> because they are completely absent. See the readme.txt file.

Yes. Unfortunately both George Secor and I have been snowed under with
other comittments lately, and while Manuel has done a marvelous job of
implementing Sagittal in Scala, we have not been able to devote the
necessary time to testing it, and understandably Manuel did not want
to delay the release of the other wonderful features. So, I offer my
apologies for the fact that we will have to wait for the next Scala
release for a proper implementation of sagittal.

Therefore, please don't judge the sagittal system by what you may see
in the current version of Scala. Most of the notations seem to be
technically correct, but in many cases the chosen alternative is far
from being the preferred value, and we see ugly things like
non-monotonic letter-name sequences on the Chromatic Clavier (which
imply non-monotonic staff positions for a monotonic sequence of
pitches). ["monotonic" means always moving in the same direction or
staying the same, but never going in the opposite direction]

Also, please don't judge the sagittal system by any of its attempted
ASCII renderings. We've come up with three different ways to do this
and they are all dreadful! (see SET SAGITTAL). The real sagittal
symbols are the graphical ones that you will see in the Chromatic
Clavier and Staff windows.

Nor do we have anything yet on the sagittal website except a pretty
front page. We have a first draft of a TrueType font that we are going
over, and we are working on educational material to explain the system
and the meaning of the symbols. We are also figuring out how you can
use them in Sibelius and Finale. We will make an announcement on this
list as soon as these are available.

It has been nearly two years since George first presented his ideas
for sagittal to this list. It has now grown to become a universal
system for microtonal notation, covering all conceivable tunings, but
I am pleased to say that the few symbols that will be used by most
microtonalists (the 11-limit/72-ET set) remain just as simple as they
were when George first presented them.

Regards,
-- Dave Keenan

🔗Manuel Op de Coul <manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com>

🔗Paul Erlich <perlich@aya.yale.edu>

🔗Carlos <garciasuarez@ya.com>

Thank you so much,

Carlos

On Friday 05 September 2003 23:10, Manuel Op de Coul wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> The new Intel/Linux version is uploaded now:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/software/scala-22-pc-linux.tar.bz2
> (3.0 Mb)
>
> Manuel
>
>
>
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