Re: theory and practice/pygmies

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While i would agree that this music falls into the ballpark close to a variety of 7 limit tunings. i think it is erroneous to think this is what they
are doing. Any form of just tuning implies a system of con/disonance. African music ,in general, uses scales where each tone and combination is
pretty much equal as to this effect. Hence in order to really have such communial music, one does not want a tuning nor would one produce a tuning
based on consonace and disonance. The same is true of music in indonesia. Their musical concerns are entirely different than are own, well not mine.

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> From: "francois_laferriere" <francois.laferriere@oxymel.com>
> Subject: Re: theory and practice
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> central african Pygmy polyphony, yes. Have a look at
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> http://www-math.cudenver.edu/~jstarret/pygmies.html
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> If this is correct, pygmy polyphonies rely on septimal interval and
> not at all on any 5 based interval. could not be more remote from
> european tradition. Those polyphonies are really extraordinary.
>
> yours truly
>
> Fran�ois Laferri�re
> _
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

But...You could construct a JI language this is pan-consonant or pan-disson=
ant.-
Justin

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
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>
> While i would agree that this music falls into the ballpark close to a va=
riety of 7
limit tunings. i think it is erroneous to think this is what they
> are doing. Any form of just tuning implies a system of con/disonance. Afr=
ican
music ,in general, uses scales where each tone and combination is
> pretty much equal as to this effect. Hence in order to really have such c=
ommunial
music, one does not want a tuning nor would one produce a tuning
> based on consonace and disonance. The same is true of music in indonesia.=
Their
musical concerns are entirely different than are own, well not mine.
>
> >
> >
> > From: "francois_laferriere" <francois.laferriere@o...>
> > Subject: Re: theory and practice
> >
> >
> >
> > central african Pygmy polyphony, yes. Have a look at
> >
> > http://www-math.cudenver.edu/~jstarret/pygmies.html
> >
> > If this is correct, pygmy polyphonies rely on septimal interval and
> > not at all on any 5 based interval. could not be more remote from
> > european tradition. Those polyphonies are really extraordinary.
> >
> > yours truly
> >
> > François Laferrière
> > _
> >
>
> -- -Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

>
>

yes the the way to do this would be by equal beating or mutually defining beating. limits would not be the best. In music in the wild per se intervals
are also chosen for their volume and JI tend to have less volume. The level in which it has to be some form of JI is that it has to a a perceptable
acoustical phenomenon. Differance tones as found in recurrent sequences

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> From: "Justin Weaver" <improvist@usa.net>
> Subject: Re: theory and practice/pygmies
>
> But...You could construct a JI language this is pan-consonant or pan-disson=
>
> ant.-
> Justin
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

i've heard this pygmy polyphony and it's not what i was referring to.
too bad it didn't take a clearer note of where that sustained single-
chord 4:5:6:7:9 choral singing was coming from.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> >
>
> While i would agree that this music falls into the ballpark close
to a variety of 7 limit tunings. i think it is erroneous to think
this is what they
> are doing. Any form of just tuning implies a system of
con/disonance. African music ,in general, uses scales where each tone
and combination is
> pretty much equal as to this effect. Hence in order to really have
such communial music, one does not want a tuning nor would one
produce a tuning
> based on consonace and disonance. The same is true of music in
indonesia. Their musical concerns are entirely different than are
own, well not mine.
>
> >
> >
> > From: "francois_laferriere" <francois.laferriere@o...>
> > Subject: Re: theory and practice
> >
> >
> >
> > central african Pygmy polyphony, yes. Have a look at
> >
> > http://www-math.cudenver.edu/~jstarret/pygmies.html
> >
> > If this is correct, pygmy polyphonies rely on septimal interval
and
> > not at all on any 5 based interval. could not be more remote from
> > european tradition. Those polyphonies are really extraordinary.
> >
> > yours truly
> >
> > François Laferrière
> > _
> >
>
> -- -Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Erlich" <perlich@a...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_46073.html#46106

> i've heard this pygmy polyphony and it's not what i was referring
to.
> too bad it didn't take a clearer note of where that sustained
single- chord 4:5:6:7:9 choral singing was coming from.
>

***Hmmm. Pigmies singing barbershop?? That must, indeed, be
extraordinary...

J. Pehrosn