Kick back, roast some weenies, listen to some music

The nameservers still are not finding my web site using my supposed
domain name of www.xenharmony.org. However, now seems to be as good a
time as any to encourage people to take a look; it's still under
construction but these things tend to become permanent conditions.

http://66.246.86.148/~xenharmo/

The Americans on the list are invited to download Stars and Stripes
forever in ratwolf tuning, in honor of the fourth.

As I say on the site, the music is of high audio quality and worth
the time it takes to download. If you think that time is too long,
you might bear in mind that even for a slow connection, you can
download the compressed files far faster than the time it took Audio
Compositor to make waves in the first place--not to mention
everything else involved.

>www.xenharmony.org

Hooray! Awesome, Gene! (I couldn't get the DNS either yet,
but that often takes some time to matriculate through the
system).

-Carl

hi Gene,

> From: "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@svpal.org>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 5:53 AM
> Subject: [tuning] Kick back, roast some weenies, listen to some music
>
>
> The nameservers still are not finding my web site using my supposed
> domain name of www.xenharmony.org. However, now seems to be as good a
> time as any to encourage people to take a look; it's still under
> construction but these things tend to become permanent conditions.
>
> http://66.246.86.148/~xenharmo/
>
> The Americans on the list are invited to download Stars and Stripes
> forever in ratwolf tuning, in honor of the fourth.
>
> As I say on the site, the music is of high audio quality and worth
> the time it takes to download. If you think that time is too long,
> you might bear in mind that even for a slow connection, you can
> download the compressed files far faster than the time it took Audio
> Compositor to make waves in the first place--not to mention
> everything else involved.

your .ogg files are terrific!

i loved the ratwolf "Stars and Stripes Forever",
and the bifrost "Monzo's Mahler #7, first movement"
sounds great!

can you point me to some info on "bifrost"? i think
this sounds much better in the Mahler than the grail
version you sent me. are you still using 12-tone
tunings? i think Mahler would benefit from >12,
making a distincion between flats/sharps, etc.

i'd like to work with you on making a really
fantastic-sounding version of this Mahler piece.
i suppose i should start by putting all the separate
MIDI-files into one big one, now that everyone's
using more powerful computers -- there are some
awkward silences in your .ogg file because of the
separate MIDIs.

... and thanks for naming "a row vector of the exponents"
a "monzo"! :) should i put that in the Dictionary?

-monz

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@a...> wrote:

> can you point me to some info on "bifrost"?

I posted about it, but I should really put pages up for each of these
temperaments as planned.

i think
> this sounds much better in the Mahler than the grail
> version you sent me. are you still using 12-tone
> tunings?

Right, bifrost is a circulating temperament which has a portion in
1/4 comma meantone (six meantone fifths.) It then fills out with four
3/2 fifths, two to a side, and completes the circle of twelve fifths
with two sqrt(2048/2025 sqrt(5)) fifths. This ends up adding three
14/11-type major thirds into the remote keys.

i think Mahler would benefit from >12,
> making a distincion between flats/sharps, etc.

I think you are right, not just about Mahler but by a lot of this
stuff. I've managed to get my complex number algorithm to work by
calculating my "argument" function measure-by-measure, but converting
something like the Mahler 7 to meantone would not be easy, even so.
I'm hoping Audio Compositor will get fixed so as to allow it to
render midis created by Scala for MTS (not just retunings of 12 notes
to the octave, which already works.)

> i'd like to work with you on making a really
> fantastic-sounding version of this Mahler piece.

Sounds like a plan. One thing which might help would be to send me
a "mechanical" midi file of the whole movement; by that I mean sans
rubato or dynamics of any kind. These are easier to retune, and the
retuning should (when all of this actually works) be exportable. Bear
in mind, however, that the result, while standard, will not be usable
by most people.

> i suppose i should start by putting all the separate
> MIDI-files into one big one, now that everyone's
> using more powerful computers -- there are some
> awkward silences in your .ogg file because of the
> separate MIDIs.

I removed one really, really long awkward silence and two shorter
ones, actually.

> ... and thanks for naming "a row vector of the exponents"
> a "monzo"! :) should i put that in the Dictionary?

My temperament programs in Maple used both p/q and row vectors for
intervals, and when commenting I called the latter "monzos", so I got
used to privately thinking of them by that name. You can look over
the site and see what you think belongs in a dictionary.

Did you download the Mahler #1 yet?

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@a...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_45284.html#45286

> i'd like to work with you on making a really
> fantastic-sounding version of this Mahler piece.
> i suppose i should start by putting all the separate
> MIDI-files into one big one, now that everyone's
> using more powerful computers -- there are some
> awkward silences in your .ogg file because of the
> separate MIDIs.
>

***Could someone please explain to me briefly the nature and
advantages of the .ogg format??

Thanks!

J. Pehrson

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:

> ***Could someone please explain to me briefly the nature and
> advantages of the .ogg format??

My personal ears liked it the best of the various compression
algorithms I listened to for the same compression. It is also free of
copyright problems and is open source; the latter means that it has
been improving faster than other compression methods; some funny
problems it had at first have now been eliminated, and it strikes me
as really quite good. Partly since it comes out of the open-source
world freeware for it is not hard to find. The only real disadvantage
I know of is that mp3 players don't support ogg, but that is likely
to change, as ogg has been gaining in popularity.

One way to listen to either ogg or mp3 files is to convert to wav and
cut a CD; I recommend this approach.