Historical tuning discography

Bart Pauwels
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Even though there is an extensive availability of recordings of
keyboard instruments in historical tunings, the information given to
the listener is mostly not very detailed. Many organ recordings
report only thiongs like "modified meantone" or "well-tempered"
without mentioning the name of the tuning.
The only exception I know are 2 CD's I own from the Buxtehude series
recorded by Harald Vogel for MDG. The booklets of these CD's contain
a detailed description of the tuning including cent values.<<

Ayeee, what about our two CD's ??? I put as much info in the booklets as the
printer said it would hold. The 'Six Degree" recording has full charts of
all tunings used. <sigh>
I also don't see academic resistance when the tunings come first. The
ears seem to win over the minds. NOw, If I tell them that there is something
new to be considered, the intellectually based fear and loathing blocks the
sensual input, but since I can do the tunings with my mouth shut, that is
less of a problem now than ever before.
Hilltop Recording Studio, here in Nashville, just completed a country
track session with a well-tempered piano and none of the musicians noticed
that there was any difference, just that it sounded good. A large percentage
of the instructors at the Blair School of Music at Vanderbilt are also now
using well-tempered pianos.
Regards,

Ed Foote RPT
www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/
www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html
or,
if you want to actually listen to some of these things on a piano: go to
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/399/six_degrees_of_tonality.html

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> NOw, If I tell them that there is something
> new to be considered, the intellectually based fear and loathing
blocks the sensual input, but since I can do the tunings with my
mouth shut, that is less of a problem now than ever before.

***Hmmm, this is an interesting point. Maybe that's why the "Early
Music" ensembles don't say much about the tuning! They fear people
will think something's "wrong" or "weird" about the CDs...

Still, *eventually* tunings will have to "come out of the closet" if
there's to be any progress in this...

J. Pehrson

> ***Hmmm, this is an interesting point. Maybe that's why the
> "Early Music" ensembles don't say much about the tuning! They
> fear people will think something's "wrong" or "weird" about the
> CDs...

I suspect that roughly a third of my early music recordings
featuring a keyboard instrument mention the tuning in the
jacket. Few give cents, but c'mon, Gene, what does that
matter? There's well temperament, meantone, or equal. The
sub-differences aren't that important, with the exception
of very rare well temperaments used by Ed Foote and Trevor
Stevenson for Chopin and such.

-Carl

In a message dated 1/30/03 2:34:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, clumma@yahoo.com
writes:

> There's well temperament, meantone, or equal. The
> sub-differences aren't that important, with the exception
> of very rare well temperaments used by Ed Foote and Trevor
> Stevenson for Chopin and such.
>
> -Carl

I realize this might be more of a private response you are making to Gene,
but I take exception with your exceptions. You are defining other people's
ears, and aesthetics. And that is not your purview. Hearing the correct
well-temperament is night and day to me and others.

best, Johnny Reinhard

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, a440a@a... wrote:
> Bart Pauwels
> <<
> Even though there is an extensive availability of recordings of
> keyboard instruments in historical tunings, the information given
to
> the listener is mostly not very detailed. Many organ recordings
> report only thiongs like "modified meantone" or "well-tempered"
> without mentioning the name of the tuning.
> The only exception I know are 2 CD's I own from the Buxtehude
series
> recorded by Harald Vogel for MDG. The booklets of these CD's
contain
> a detailed description of the tuning including cent values.<<
>
> Ayeee, what about our two CD's ??? I put as much info in the
booklets as the
> printer said it would hold. The 'Six Degree" recording has full
charts of
> all tunings used. <sigh>

ed, your CDs were the very first ones brought up in this thread! turn
that <sigh> into a <yaay>!

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma <clumma@y...>" <clumma@y...> wrote:

> I suspect that roughly a third of my early music recordings
> featuring a keyboard instrument mention the tuning in the
> jacket. Few give cents, but c'mon, Gene, what does that
> matter?

It prevents me from using the information to develop my ear. I hear something that doesn't sound like 12-et, but what *is* it? Of course, a lot of times there's adaptive stuff going on, but I wouldn't mind knowing that also.

>It prevents me from using the information to develop my ear. I
>hear something that doesn't sound like 12-et, but what *is* it?
>Of course, a lot of times there's adaptive stuff going on, but I
>wouldn't mind knowing that also.

Unfortunately, there's no way of knowing what the adaptive
stuff is. Ask the Canadian Brass if they know what 5-limit
JI is...

-Carl

>

Ha got you on this one. one of them is Scott hacklemans ( maker of the 19 tone clavichord) brother

>
> From: "Carl Lumma <clumma@yahoo.com>" <clumma@yahoo.com>
> Subject:
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, there's no way of knowing what the adaptive
> stuff is. Ask the Canadian Brass if they know what 5-limit
> JI is...
>
> -Carl
>

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>Ha got you on this one. one of them is Scott hacklemans (maker
>of the 19 tone clavichord) brother

Wow! -C.