Scala Learning Curve ??

Hi Members,

If anyone can send me a link to understanding and manuvering around
scala I'd very much appreciate it. I just downoaded and installed the
newest version.

I'm having a tough time finding a place to start. I believe this
program will help me allot once I understand how to utilize it.

I've browsed the tutorial files but am still trying to find a place
to start.

Is there a forum on the net with regards to this program?

Thanks
Wally

--- In tuning@y..., "electricwally77" <earth7@o...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_39150.html#39150

> Hi Members,
>
> If anyone can send me a link to understanding and manuvering around
> scala I'd very much appreciate it. I just downoaded and installed
the
> newest version.
>
> I'm having a tough time finding a place to start. I believe this
> program will help me allot once I understand how to utilize it.
>
> I've browsed the tutorial files but am still trying to find a place
> to start.
>
> Is there a forum on the net with regards to this program?
>
> Thanks
> Wally

***Hello Wally!

Well, this is a verifiable situation. The SCALA help files really
explain all the *details* of the program, and the short *tutorial*
that the program performs is very brief.

The SCALA *help* files are here, but, like I say, they really are
more an explanation of all the features, not an incremental tutorial:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/help.htm

In short, there really *isn't* an adequate introduction to this
product, as you might expect of commercial software.

Johnny Reinhard and I have been discussing this situation very
recently. Manuel Op de Coul, the talented inventor, is really more
interested in the *advanced* applications, so we surmise it would be
best if *we* were to try to hack something together with, of course,
Manuel's approval and assistance.

This is a project in the works, and your post testifies to the
continuing *need* for this material, as Johnny and I surmised all
along.

best,

Joe Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_39150.html#39151

> >
> > Is there a forum on the net with regards to this program?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Wally
>

> ***I forgot to answer this, Wally. The short answer is *no...*

Actually you are *on* the forum that comes closest to discussing this
program, since Manuel Op de Coul posts here too. You might want to
ask some questions here, or to Manuel privately, if it's a problem.

The *basic* operations of SCALA are not at all difficult to learn,
and you can get going on it right away.

The more *advanced* functions *are* difficult, but mostly because the
*concepts* are difficult, not because of the program.

But, there still needs to be a "gentle introduction" to this program
written for the beginner.

best,

J. Pehrson

Hi Joe

Thanks for your reply.

I've been studying JI and tuning for some time now and understanding
more as I continue my studies. I must admit its an uphill climb. I'm
slowly working my way through "The JI Primer" by Doty (great book !)
and studying different topics at the same time.

What's really interested me thus far is how the diatonic scale made
its way as the foothold of western music. I've been studying this
subject for quite some time and acquiring great info. and knowledge.

My immediate need is to create different scale/tunings as well as
chords/triads with Scala and listen to their differences besides the
all important task of studying –mathematically- why they sound
different. This is a must for beginners in "Tuning".

Question #1 please…
How soon before you and Johnny Reinhard develop a "gentle
introduction" for beginners?

Question #2 please…
You said………
>The *basic* operations of SCALA are not at all difficult to learn,
>and you can get going on it right away.

Where do I start please?

Regards
Wally

--- In tuning@y..., "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_39150.html#39151
>
> > >
> > > Is there a forum on the net with regards to this program?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Wally
> >
>
>
> > ***I forgot to answer this, Wally. The short answer is *no...*
>
> Actually you are *on* the forum that comes closest to discussing
this
> program, since Manuel Op de Coul posts here too. You might want to
> ask some questions here, or to Manuel privately, if it's a problem.
>
> The *basic* operations of SCALA are not at all difficult to learn,
> and you can get going on it right away.
>
> The more *advanced* functions *are* difficult, but mostly because
the
> *concepts* are difficult, not because of the program.
>
> But, there still needs to be a "gentle introduction" to this
program
> written for the beginner.
>
> best,
>
> J. Pehrson

Joseph wrote:

>In short, there really *isn't* an adequate introduction to this
>product, as you might expect of commercial software.
>Johnny Reinhard and I have been discussing this situation very
>recently. Manuel Op de Coul, the talented inventor, is really more
>interested in the *advanced* applications, so we surmise it would be
>best if *we* were to try to hack something together with, of course,
>Manuel's approval and assistance.

That's a good idea, I already came to the conclusion that I'm not
the right person to write such an introduction. I'm willing to review
things of course.

Manuel

Wally wrote:

>My immediate need is to create different scale/tunings as well as
>chords/triads with Scala and listen to their differences besides the
>all important task of studying ?mathematically- why they sound
>different. This is a must for beginners in "Tuning".

You can listen to a set of prefined chords and their inversions by
going to View->List of chords.
Otherwise in the chromatic clavier it's possible to play multiple
tones by shift-clicking the keys.
The Edit dialog also lets you do that, within the range of one
octave. For entry of scales, the Edit dialog works best.

Manuel

--- In tuning@y..., "electricwally77" <earth7@o...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_39150.html#39155
>
>
> Hi Joe
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I've been studying JI and tuning for some time now and
understanding more as I continue my studies. I must admit its an
uphill climb. I'm slowly working my way through "The JI Primer" by
Doty (great book !) and studying different topics at the same time.
>

***That's an excellent choice as an introduction, Wally!

> What's really interested me thus far is how the diatonic scale made
> its way as the foothold of western music. I've been studying this
> subject for quite some time and acquiring great info. and knowledge.
>
> My immediate need is to create different scale/tunings as well as
> chords/triads with Scala and listen to their differences besides
the all important task of studying –mathematically- why they
sound
> different. This is a must for beginners in "Tuning".
>
> Question #1 please…
> How soon before you and Johnny Reinhard develop a "gentle
> introduction" for beginners?
>

**I'm working on it right now, and will post my first version of some
of this shortly. It's not much, but it may be enough to help get you
started!

> Question #2 please…
> You said………
> >The *basic* operations of SCALA are not at all difficult to learn,
> >and you can get going on it right away.
>
> Where do I start please?
>
>

***Coming right up...

SCALA FOR DUMMIES!!!

J. Pehrson

Hi Joe

I actually have many books on tuning and disecting each one as time
allows.

> ***Coming right up...
>
> SCALA FOR DUMMIES!!!

THANK YOU !!!! THANK YOU !!! I will check it out now!

Thanks for your concern and patience.

Regards
Wally

--- In tuning@y..., "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "electricwally77" <earth7@o...> wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_39150.html#39155
> >
> >
> > Hi Joe
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > I've been studying JI and tuning for some time now and
> understanding more as I continue my studies. I must admit its an
> uphill climb. I'm slowly working my way through "The JI Primer" by
> Doty (great book !) and studying different topics at the same time.
> >
>
> ***That's an excellent choice as an introduction, Wally!
>
>
> > What's really interested me thus far is how the diatonic scale
made
> > its way as the foothold of western music. I've been studying this
> > subject for quite some time and acquiring great info. and
knowledge.
> >
> > My immediate need is to create different scale/tunings as well as
> > chords/triads with Scala and listen to their differences besides
> the all important task of studying –mathematically- why they
> sound
> > different. This is a must for beginners in "Tuning".
> >
> > Question #1 please…
> > How soon before you and Johnny Reinhard develop a "gentle
> > introduction" for beginners?
> >
>
> **I'm working on it right now, and will post my first version of
some
> of this shortly. It's not much, but it may be enough to help get
you
> started!
>
>
> > Question #2 please…
> > You said………
> > >The *basic* operations of SCALA are not at all difficult to
learn,
> > >and you can get going on it right away.
> >
> > Where do I start please?
> >
> >
>
> ***Coming right up...
>
> SCALA FOR DUMMIES!!!
>
> J. Pehrson