response to gene

Hello Gene.

>In an ideal world this wouldn't be necessary

>In my ideal world it would *always* happen. :)

Well, the problem is that, for example here, you are now reacting to my brief
summaries of the larger points made in my essay. If I respond to your reactions
with explanations, I'll end up rewriting my essay in email messages, which seems
like a little bit of a waste of everyone's time. For example, I never made rules
about anything being allowable, and I explain what I mean about artistic freedom,
in such a way that you if you had read the essay you might (might) never have had
to make some of the statements you made in this message. We become like a cat
chasing its tail.

>It gives us freedom only in comparison to that
>more restrictive rule, and gives us nothing by way of structure unless we bring
>something else to the discussion--as I, and many others, would bring in
>particular the approximation of ratios.

Another example: Read the entire Part 2 of my essay ("What May Happen"), if
you are looking for structure, and for me to bring something more to the
discussion.

--- In tuning@y..., "jwerntz2002" <juliawerntz@a...> wrote:
> >In my ideal world it would *always* happen. :)

> Well, the problem is that, for example here, you are now reacting to my brief
> summaries of the larger points made in my essay.

That's why I suggested making a Postscript file or something of that sort available. My latest plan for a perfect academic world would have a web page created for every PhD thesis, including a discussion section where people could leave commentary. In other words, resurrect the idea of a thesis defense. I also think it would be a nifty idea if "publishing" your dissertation meant more than leaving a copy in the library and perhaps allowing a dissertation service to disseminate it. Why should not academic departments or the college as a whole make them available, for free, on the Internet? It's the 21st century; time to get with it.

For example, I never made rules
> about anything being allowable, and I explain what I mean about artistic freedom,
> in such a way that you if you had read the essay you might (might) never have had
> to make some of the statements you made in this message.

I haven't been able to read your article as yet, since it hasn't made it to our library. However, my point was that "be atonal" or "use an equal temperament" are rules; if you advocate them in any exclusive sense, you advocate a rule defining what can and cannot be done. The same remark applies to Just Intonation or tonality, of course.

--- In tuning@y..., "genewardsmith" <genewardsmith@j...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_37351.html#37354

> --- In tuning@y..., "jwerntz2002" <juliawerntz@a...> wrote:
> > >In my ideal world it would *always* happen. :)
>
> > Well, the problem is that, for example here, you are now reacting
to my brief
> > summaries of the larger points made in my essay.
>
> That's why I suggested making a Postscript file or something of
that sort available. My latest plan for a perfect academic world
would have a web page created for every PhD thesis, including a
discussion section where people could leave commentary. In other
words, resurrect the idea of a thesis defense. I also think it would
be a nifty idea if "publishing" your dissertation meant more than
leaving a copy in the library and perhaps allowing a dissertation
service to disseminate it. Why should not academic departments or the
college as a whole make them available, for free, on the Internet?
It's the 21st century; time to get with it.
>

***Frankly, I think these are great ideas, Gene! This way people who
share a speciality or "passion" could really interact, rather than
just going to a library and reading something privately on microfilm
or such like. Maybe Web repositories could substitute for microfilm
to a degree, and be *interactive...*

J. Pehrson

--- jpehrson2 <jpehrson@rcn.com> wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "genewardsmith"
> <genewardsmith@j...> wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_37351.html#37354
>
> > --- In tuning@y..., "jwerntz2002"
> <juliawerntz@a...> wrote:
> > > >In my ideal world it would *always* happen. :)
> >
> > > Well, the problem is that, for example here, you
> are now reacting
> to my brief
> > > summaries of the larger points made in my essay.
> >
> > That's why I suggested making a Postscript file or
> something of
> that sort available. My latest plan for a perfect
> academic world
> would have a web page created for every PhD thesis,
> including a
> discussion section where people could leave
> commentary. In other
> words, resurrect the idea of a thesis defense. I
> also think it would
> be a nifty idea if "publishing" your dissertation
> meant more than
> leaving a copy in the library and perhaps allowing a
> dissertation
> service to disseminate it. Why should not academic
> departments or the
> college as a whole make them available, for free, on
> the Internet?
> It's the 21st century; time to get with it.
> >
>
> ***Frankly, I think these are great ideas, Gene!
> This way people who
> share a speciality or "passion" could really
> interact, rather than
> just going to a library and reading something
> privately on microfilm
> or such like. Maybe Web repositories could
> substitute for microfilm
> to a degree, and be *interactive...*
>
> J. Pehrson
>
*****************
I concur 500%. Why not create the same set up for
papers that the authors feel strongly about? I would
like to do precisely that for my upcoming paper on
"Non-Deterministic Scales Used in Traditional Turkish
Music". I would be very much interested in relentless
scrutiny from anyone who would care to comment.

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