Re: [tuning] Digest Number 2027

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> From: "jpehrson2" <jpehrson@rcn.com>
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> --- In tuning@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:
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> > I've long felt that you should trust your physicality and your
> > instincts more than you should trust your ear's tastes when it comes
> > to making actual music.

I am not sure they are separate

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> Music is not tuning. The ear is not your
> > imagination and if your imagination is its unfortunate indentured
> > servant, surely that's a sad thing.

All perception is inseparable from the imagination since memory is the main supplier of data.?

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> Is it not true that Kraig Grady has some pieces where he really
> slaves and slaves over the *tuning* and then lets the pieces take off
> rather "automatically" after that??

well you are not i trouble here
I can't say i slave over tunings in that i have only used a few (less than maybe 12 in twice that
many years).

I will say that i recognize a tuning as an expressive element of a composition and also that
each tuning or class of tunings has certain structural possibilities. On the other hand I have
slave over the possibilities of my main tunings for i had to build instruments since for years
there was absolutely no way else for me to hear any of it otherwise.

The priority was tunings with the least amount of notes that does the most of what i wanted to
do. Every step has been filled with discoveries that sometimes took years. And compositions that
might last a 40 minutes although existing on a single pizza box size score is the result of many
trials and errors because working in a new tuning you discover things that have never been thought
about in music before. I am sure early electronic people felt likewise.

These compositions take off by themselves in the same way Bach could recognize the potential
of his themes and then let them "automatically" run as fugues. I am guilty of using tuning to
construct music "outside of time" which is maybe what Dan means above.

Tuning determines what you can and cannot do. One has only to look at free improv as practiced by
those not as aware as a Reinhard and you end up with 12 underneath it all.
The same with so much electronic music.

Tuning is as much the fence as the palette of your tone imagination. Yet our imagination can
create things like a game of Chess which might be simple on the surface , but quickly grows to a
level of depth unforeseen at the beginning. Hopefully this is what we will learn to door at least
recognize it when it does happen!

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> Kraig voting for Columbia would be a little like John Cage liking
> Beethoven...

I think he liked beethoven but just wanted to hear it all at one time.
I AM AGAINST COLUMBIA AND CHANGE MY VOTE FOR TOPICA.
a feldman list is there and it seems good!

And now a shameless plug!!!!!!!

PICTURE FROM UPCOMING SHADOW PLAY! ( I made 3 out of these four puppets, not the fat man in the
middle)

http://www.anaphoria.com/themeeting.JPG

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

--- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_36622.html#36622
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> And compositions that
> might last a 40 minutes although existing on a single pizza box
size score is the result of many
> trials and errors because working in a new tuning you discover
things that have never been thought
> about in music before. I am sure early electronic people felt
likewise.
>

***That has been the exciting part of working in Blackjack for me...
of course people have played around with the simple sonorities all
the time, but maybe not in the same configurations and maybe not with
all the "small step" possibilities combined with the just intervals!

> Tuning is as much the fence as the palette of your tone
imagination.

***Umm... Kraig, with statements like this you really should get a
book out. It would be as good as Cage's, maybe better.

J. Pehrson