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Ampersand

🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@juno.com>

2/15/2002 12:33:45 AM

am·per·sand Pronunciation Key (mpr-snd)
n.
The character or sign (&) representing the word and.

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[Alteration of and per se and, & (the sign) by itself (means) and.]

So it seems it's not anyone's name, unless it is a cat.

🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

2/15/2002 1:17:25 AM

> From: genewardsmith <genewardsmith@juno.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:33 AM
> Subject: [tuning] Ampersand
>
>
> am�per�sand Pronunciation Key (mpr-snd)
> n.
> The character or sign (&) representing the word and.
>
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> [Alteration of and per se and, & (the sign) by itself (means) and.]

shucks, i knew that! :) guess i should've mentioned it
in my post. oh well, it'll have to be in the Dictionary
entry for sure!

> So it seems it's not anyone's name, unless it is a cat.

that's exactly what i was saying. somebody had a cat named
ampersand, and for some reason that cat's name got attached
to this interval by somebody else.

-monz

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🔗manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com

2/15/2002 1:46:40 AM

That comma was discovered by Paul Rapoport, who named it after
his cat, which listens to the name Opus Ampersand.

Manuel

🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

2/15/2002 2:15:17 AM

> From: <manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Ampersand
>
>
> That comma was discovered by Paul Rapoport, who named it after
> his cat, which listens to the name Opus Ampersand.
>
> Manuel

thanks, Manuel!

> From: monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:21 AM
> Subject: [tuning] ampersand (was: vanishing comma caper)
>
>
> objection or not, the MIRACLE family of temperaments
> already has a whole litter of offspring names for
> subset tunings, so i say we call any 5-limit MIRACLE
> tuning an "ampersand temperament". i think i like that
> even more than studloco! :)

of course, the reason i like the name so much is
because, first, i think it's a cool name for a cat,
and second, i love cats. cats are the only animals
i've ever had and ever would consider for a pet.

-monz

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🔗jonszanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>

2/15/2002 8:09:35 AM

--- In tuning@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
> of course, the reason i like the name so much is
> because, first, i think it's a cool name for a cat,
> and second, i love cats. cats are the only animals
> i've ever had and ever would consider for a pet.

I'm with Joe on this one: there's so little humanity left in the
topics that having a little felinity almost makes up for the
technicity...

Cheers,
Jon

🔗jpehrson2 <jpehrson@rcn.com>

2/15/2002 9:28:43 AM

--- In tuning@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_34271.html#34272

>
> > So it seems it's not anyone's name, unless it is a cat.
>
> that's exactly what i was saying. somebody had a cat named
> ampersand, and for some reason that cat's name got attached
> to this interval by somebody else.
>
>

***"Ampersand" seems like an apocryphal addition.... :)

JP

🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@juno.com>

2/15/2002 11:12:38 AM

--- In tuning@y..., "jonszanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:

> I'm with Joe on this one: there's so little humanity left in the
> topics that having a little felinity almost makes up for the
> technicity...

You could always expand your definition of humanity to cover the thoughts and activities of humans.

🔗jonszanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>

2/15/2002 1:06:01 PM

--- In tuning@y..., "genewardsmith" <genewardsmith@j...> wrote:
> You could always expand your definition of humanity to cover the
thoughts and activities of humans.

When the thoughts and activities of humans become indescernible from
machines I reserve the right to define the term as I see it. As one
who has been spending a lot of time making up your own definitions,
I'm sure you'll understand.

Thanks,
Jon

🔗paulerlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

2/15/2002 1:32:44 PM

--- In tuning@y..., "jonszanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "genewardsmith" <genewardsmith@j...> wrote:
> > You could always expand your definition of humanity to cover the
> thoughts and activities of humans.
>
> When the thoughts and activities of humans become indescernible
from
> machines I reserve the right to define the term as I see it.

does that imply, by extension, that you would confer less 'human
rights' to those whose activities you deem as 'machine-like'? perhaps
you would treat them more like machines than like humans? reply to
metatuning . . .