Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Neo-Gothic Music in 13-tET -- audio files

Hello, there, everyone, and it's my pleasure to let you know that thanks
to the generous technical assistance and artistry of Jacky Ligon and much
advice and encouragement from many others, some audio files of neo-Gothic
music in 13-tET are now available for listening in the Files area of the
MakeMicroMusic group.

The following repost from MMM might be of interest in view of the
discussion here on the Hammond Organ; one of the pieces uses a fluteline
timbre called a "Chowning Organ," named after John Chowning, with partials
optimized for consonant intervals of 8/13 octave in 13-tET. This timbre
is a modified version of the preset "Flute" voice (A23) on the Yahama
TX-802 synthesizer.

Thank you, John deLaubenfels, for some comments I just saw prompting me to
post this here now.

As I comment in my MMM post, the contributions of Bill Sethares, as well
as John Chowning and others who have explored the connections between
timbre and tuning, have provided a foundation for explorations like these
demonstrations and pieces in 13-tET -- or 13-EDO or 13-ED2 if you prefer.

The MMM repost includes links to upload announcements which in turn have
links to the actual files.

Most appreciatively,

Margo Schulter
mschulter@value.net

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Hello, everyone, and I'm pleased to announce that with much assistance
and artistry on the part of Jacky Ligon, three of my 13-tET items
are now available on MMM. Please let me warmly thank all of your who
have helped make this possible, including the most inspiring Bill
Sethares who has done so much to encourage timbre/tuning diversity.

Here I'll give links to the upload messages, followed by notes on each
of the three items.

* * *

/makemicromusic/topicId_42.html#1179
"Fifths" (13-tET, Piccolo, PuffPipesD) ~0:23

This quick demonstration moves through the 13 "fifths" or 8-step
intervals in a 13-tET chromatic scale, showing how they can have a
"fifthlike" stability or an intriguing ambiguity with some "minor
sixthlike" qualities also. These intervals of around 738 cents might
best be described as in their own class, "fifths" most extraordinary.

(The timbre is "PuffPipesD," based on the beautiful built-in voice
"PuffPipes" on the Yamaha TX-802 synthesizer, here modified to make
these 13-tET intervals more smooth or concordant in effect.)

/makemicromusic/topicId_42.html#1182
"Chowning Organ Improvisation" (13-tET, Chowning Organ) ~2:30

This somewhat "jazzy" neo-Gothic piece tries a bit of "floating"
accidentalism or chromaticism with some four-voice sonorities such
as 0-462-738-923 cents (a bit like 14:18:21:24, 0-435-702-933 cents)
or 0-277-702-1015 cents (a bit like 12:14:18:21, 0-267-702-969 cents).
These sonorities maybe suggest what could very loosely be called a
kind of "neo-medieval barbershop" style celebrating the sonorousness
of this tuning. The Chowning Organ is a flutelike timbre named in
honor of John Chowning, the inventor and developer of FM synthesis.

/makemicromusic/topicId_42.html#1180
"14th-century improvisation" (13-tET, Piccolo, PuffPipesD) ~2:38

This take on the 14th century features a timbre called "PuffPipesD," a
variation on the preset PuffPipes voice with optimization for 13-tET;
the "D" in the title is the hexadecimal notation for the number 13.
The "Piccolo" is a slightly modified version of the preset TX-802
voice by this name (A27), which as is can make an interval of 8/13
octave or a diminished sixth in 1/4-comma meantone (e.g. G#-Eb),
either at ~738 cents, have a consonant effect rather like that of a
usual fifth. One is tempted to wonder if the "Piccolo" preset might
have been designed for such a tuning, for example John Chowning's
ninth root of Phi scale used in Stria.

* * *

An aside: while it's sometimes convenient to speak of intervals such
as "fifths" in 13-tET, this tuning has its own "musical geometry" or
"interval arithmetic" often radically different from that of Western
European compositional conventions. We might better speak of "8-step"
intervals, often used in neo-Gothic music based on 13th-14th century
European styles as a kind of near-3:2 stable concord.

May I warmly thank you, Jacky, not only for making these pieces
available, but for taking the quite inexpert cassette recording which
I mailed you and applying your technical skills and musical experience
alike in seeking the best renditions for our tuning community on the
World Wide Web.

With peace and love,

Margo

🔗Herman Miller <hmiller@IO.COM>

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>

Herman,

--- In tuning@y..., Herman Miller <hmiller@I...> wrote:
> I still can't find the Files area of that group. There's a bit of
> text that says "Files", but it's not underlined, and clicking on it
> does nothing.

In spite of the fact that Paul Erlich also posted the direct link to
the files area, there is a more important point: the 'public' may
both read and post messages, but the files area is for members of the
Creating Microtonal Music forum. Accessing Margo's excellent little
musical pieces would be as simple as joining the list.

And in case you are wondering, no, it wasn't some kind of elite move
on the part of the admin for that list; Yahoo's servers are
notoriously slow and cranky at serving up downloads, and it was felt
that the files area would be best utilized by those who joined the
CMM list (also known as MMM - MakeMicroMusic - for obscure reasons)
because they would be the ones actively creating and submitting
music. Lurkers are welcome, of course, but the mission statement of
the list notes that "our special focus is on the creation of new
music, with mutual encouragement and enthusiasm as we share passages,
pieces, and bits of supportive criticism or lively dialogue."

Hope this clears things up a bit...

Cheers,
Jon (list-mom of Creating Microtonal Music)

🔗Herman Miller <hmiller@IO.COM>

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 02:41:21 -0000, "Paul Erlich" <paul@stretch-music.com>
wrote:

>--- In tuning@y..., Herman Miller <hmiller@I...> wrote:
>
>> I still can't find the Files area of that group.
>
>/tuning/files/

Ah, it won't let me in because I'm not a member of the group. Could someone
who's on that group suggest having it set up so that the Files area is
publicly viewable? I've got too many mailing lists that I'm on to join yet
another one. I don't have any problem getting into the Tuning Challenges
files area for instance (even though I'm not a member of that group
either), so I know it can be set up that way.

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🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>

Herman,

--- In tuning@y..., Herman Miller <hmiller@I...> wrote:
> Could someone who's on that group suggest having it set up so that
> the Files area is publicly viewable?

In msg 29749 I explained the reason the files are set up that way in
Creating Microtonal Music. I happen to be the owner/moderator of the
group, and after discussion with others this seemed to be the best
way to go.

Maybe the files area here (tuning) could be cleared up and some room
made for Margo's files.

> I don't have any problem getting into the Tuning Challenges
> files area for instance (even though I'm not a member of that group
> either), so I know it can be set up that way.

Yes, it's very easy to set it up, but it is optional. Write me
offlist and maybe we can find an interim solution...

Cheers,
Jon

Neo-Gothic Music in 13-tET -- audio files

🔗mschulter <MSCHULTER@VALUE.NET>

🔗Herman Miller <hmiller@IO.COM>

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>

🔗Herman Miller <hmiller@IO.COM>

🔗genewardsmith@juno.com

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>