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Suggestions? Best, friendliest software synthesis on the cheap?

🔗BobWendell@technet-inc.com

10/16/2001 2:33:43 PM

Perhaps few if any have read my previous plea, probably because of
it's subject ending up having nothing to do with the content. I am
not currently in a position to acquire microtonal keyboard
capability. Must use software synthesis to hear my work realized.
Suggestions anyone? Thanks in advance!

🔗genewardsmith@juno.com

10/16/2001 6:24:23 PM

--- In tuning@y..., BobWendell@t... wrote:

> Perhaps few if any have read my previous plea, probably because of
> it's subject ending up having nothing to do with the content. I am
> not currently in a position to acquire microtonal keyboard
> capability. Must use software synthesis to hear my work realized.
> Suggestions anyone? Thanks in advance!

I find that using Scala to create a .mid (midi) file from a .seq
file, and then using a midi renderer such as Timidity or Midisyn
works quite well. All of the above are free!

🔗graham@microtonal.co.uk

10/17/2001 3:10:00 AM

In-Reply-To: <9qi93n+m51o@eGroups.com>
Bob Wendell wrote:

> Perhaps few if any have read my previous plea, probably because of
> it's subject ending up having nothing to do with the content. I am
> not currently in a position to acquire microtonal keyboard
> capability. Must use software synthesis to hear my work realized.
> Suggestions anyone? Thanks in advance!

Hello!

You could try VAZ+ <http://www.softech.u-net.com/info/softech/vaz.htm>.
The sound's a matter of taste, but it does what it does without much
latency. Apparently it does support tuning tables. I didn't get the full
version, but only because Kyma duplicates most of the functionality.

It has a built-in sequencer, so you won't need a keyboard. But you should
still get a keyboard. What makes you think you can't afford one? You
said you already have a keyboard with MIDI out, so all you need is the
soundcard cable. About $20.

Graham

🔗BobWendell@technet-inc.com

10/17/2001 10:17:30 AM

Thanks, Graham. I checked out the link and it is indeed an
interesting-looking option. Appreciate the suggestion very much and
the input on using my current keyboard.

--- In tuning@y..., graham@m... wrote:
> In-Reply-To: <9qi93n+m51o@e...>
> Bob Wendell wrote:
>
> > Perhaps few if any have read my previous plea, probably because
of
> > it's subject ending up having nothing to do with the content. I
am
> > not currently in a position to acquire microtonal keyboard
> > capability. Must use software synthesis to hear my work realized.
> > Suggestions anyone? Thanks in advance!
>
> Hello!
>
> You could try VAZ+ <http://www.softech.u-
net.com/info/softech/vaz.htm>.
> The sound's a matter of taste, but it does what it does without
much
> latency. Apparently it does support tuning tables. I didn't get
the full
> version, but only because Kyma duplicates most of the functionality.
>
> It has a built-in sequencer, so you won't need a keyboard. But you
should
> still get a keyboard. What makes you think you can't afford one?
You
> said you already have a keyboard with MIDI out, so all you need is
the
> soundcard cable. About $20.
>
>
> Graham

🔗jpehrson@rcn.com

10/17/2001 8:23:57 PM

--- In tuning@y..., graham@m... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_29216.html#29239

> In-Reply-To: <9qi93n+m51o@e...>
> Bob Wendell wrote:
>
> > Perhaps few if any have read my previous plea, probably because
of
> > it's subject ending up having nothing to do with the content. I
am
> > not currently in a position to acquire microtonal keyboard
> > capability. Must use software synthesis to hear my work realized.
> > Suggestions anyone? Thanks in advance!
>
> Hello!
>
> You could try VAZ+ <http://www.softech.u-
net.com/info/softech/vaz.htm>.
> The sound's a matter of taste, but it does what it does without
much latency. Apparently it does support tuning tables. I didn't
get the full version, but only because Kyma duplicates most of the
functionality.
>
> It has a built-in sequencer, so you won't need a keyboard. But you
should still get a keyboard. What makes you think you can't afford
one? You said you already have a keyboard with MIDI out, so all you
need is the soundcard cable. About $20.
>
>
> Graham

Actually, this looks like it would be pretty easy to operate. I
recently purchased the soft-synth "Infinity" from Sound Quest. I can
get it to do some stuff, and it's interesting, but there is a
significant learning curve involved. Maybe not quite like Csound,
but still substantial... And that's even before we get into the
xenharmonic part of it all...

________ _______ _______
Joseph Pehrson

🔗BobWendell@technet-inc.com

10/18/2001 8:41:23 AM

I have a basic keyboard with signle-channel midi in and out. It just
can't be retuned from 12-tET by any means at all. Howver, it can
generate midi output from the keyboard so I can use it to play in
sequences to software that can be retuned. The problem is I have only
USB ports for external devices on my Gateway Solo 1150 laptop running
Windows ME.

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., graham@m... wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_29216.html#29239
>
>
> > In-Reply-To: <9qi93n+m51o@e...>
> > Bob Wendell wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps few if any have read my previous plea, probably because
> of
> > > it's subject ending up having nothing to do with the content. I
> am
> > > not currently in a position to acquire microtonal keyboard
> > > capability. Must use software synthesis to hear my work
realized.
> > > Suggestions anyone? Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > You could try VAZ+ <http://www.softech.u-
> net.com/info/softech/vaz.htm>.
> > The sound's a matter of taste, but it does what it does without
> much latency. Apparently it does support tuning tables. I didn't
> get the full version, but only because Kyma duplicates most of the
> functionality.
> >
> > It has a built-in sequencer, so you won't need a keyboard. But
you
> should still get a keyboard. What makes you think you can't
afford
> one? You said you already have a keyboard with MIDI out, so all
you
> need is the soundcard cable. About $20.
> >
> >
> > Graham
>
>
> Actually, this looks like it would be pretty easy to operate. I
> recently purchased the soft-synth "Infinity" from Sound Quest. I
can
> get it to do some stuff, and it's interesting, but there is a
> significant learning curve involved. Maybe not quite like Csound,
> but still substantial... And that's even before we get into the
> xenharmonic part of it all...
>
> ________ _______ _______
> Joseph Pehrson

🔗manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com

10/18/2001 8:49:45 AM

If it has a joystick/MIDI port, then you only need
a small box with a MIDI optocoupler and 5-pin DIN
connectors from about $20.

Manuel

🔗graham@microtonal.co.uk

10/18/2001 8:52:00 AM

In-Reply-To: <9qmt73+fbhs@eGroups.com>
Bob Wendell wrote:

> I have a basic keyboard with signle-channel midi in and out. It just
> can't be retuned from 12-tET by any means at all. Howver, it can
> generate midi output from the keyboard so I can use it to play in
> sequences to software that can be retuned. The problem is I have only
> USB ports for external devices on my Gateway Solo 1150 laptop running
> Windows ME.

You can get USB MIDI ports. I use a Midiman, and it works fine with SysEx
messages, alongside a soundcard or two. So long as you can work out a way
of getting sound out, that should work for you. You can even try sending
the pitch bends back to your keyboard, for that classic monosynth effect.

Graham

🔗BobWendell@technet-inc.com

10/18/2001 10:30:34 AM

Thanks, Graham, Manuel! All interesting options. I'll check what is
most convenenient and best suits my system. I have an old Midiman,
but it uses the huge printer cable and goes into the printer port,
which my laptop doesn't have. I used it with Rhapsody, maybe familiar
to you as a subset of Encore, pretty nice music-publishing software
I've been using for arranging and composing common-practice music.

--- In tuning@y..., graham@m... wrote:
> In-Reply-To: <9qmt73+fbhs@e...>
> Bob Wendell wrote:
>
> > I have a basic keyboard with signle-channel midi in and out. It
just
> > can't be retuned from 12-tET by any means at all. Howver, it can
> > generate midi output from the keyboard so I can use it to play in
> > sequences to software that can be retuned. The problem is I have
only
> > USB ports for external devices on my Gateway Solo 1150 laptop
running
> > Windows ME.
>
> You can get USB MIDI ports. I use a Midiman, and it works fine
with SysEx
> messages, alongside a soundcard or two. So long as you can work
out a way
> of getting sound out, that should work for you. You can even try
sending
> the pitch bends back to your keyboard, for that classic monosynth
effect.
>
>
> Graham

🔗jpehrson@rcn.com

10/20/2001 2:17:22 PM

--- In tuning@y..., BobWendell@t... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_29216.html#29290

> I have a basic keyboard with signle-channel midi in and out. It
just can't be retuned from 12-tET by any means at all. Howver, it can
> generate midi output from the keyboard so I can use it to play in
> sequences to software that can be retuned. The problem is I have
only USB ports for external devices on my Gateway Solo 1150 laptop
running Windows ME.
>

Hello Bob!

As long as you have a sound card in your laptop, and a MIDI out from
your keyboard... you *should* be able to use the wonderful Graham
Breed MIDI RELAY, which will let you test about anything out... It
uses pitch bends sent to the sound card... It's multi-voiced and uses
different timbres. Running it with a sequencer is a *bit* more
complex, and involves using MIDI YOKE, which I haven't messed with...
but probably isn't very difficult to get going.

________ _______ ___________
Joseph Pehrson