Click'n'play Fokker 31t-ET kbd

Hallo again

The click'n'play Fokker 31t-ET kbd in up on line atwww.ii4i.net
[http://www.ii4i.net/]. Compare with the Bosanquet on the same site. For all
those who can't afford the dream machine by Starrlabs!

Paul

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Hi, Paul. Neat! However, I wonder why none of the fine ears on this
list have not yet commented on the tuning at the lower end of this
keyboard. Could it be my board?

At higher volumes on my machine, at least, the pitch is somewhere in
the vicinity of 60 or 70 cents sharp and as it fades, drops at the
last minute to somewhere near the proper pitch. At low volume, the
problem almost disappears, but there is still a slight vestige of it.
Could this be due to pitch bending versus volume in the midi file
behaving anomolously in my particular board, or is this more
universal?

My sound board does fine for other microtonal midi and on MP3 files,
so I'm wondering what the problem is. For a microtonal keyboard, I
find such tuning anomalies render it pretty much useless for the
instructional purpose for which I assume it is intended.

--- In tuning@y..., Paul Hirsh <monxmood@f...> wrote:
>

--- In tuning@y..., BobWendell@t... wrote:

> Hi, Paul. Neat! However, I wonder why none of the fine ears on this
> list have not yet commented on the tuning at the lower end of this
> keyboard.

Maybe because no one else has tried it yet?

--- In tuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., BobWendell@t... wrote:
>
> > Hi, Paul. Neat! However, I wonder why none of the fine ears on
this
> > list have not yet commented on the tuning at the lower end of
this
> > keyboard.
>
> Maybe because no one else has tried it yet?

Bob:
Grin! Yeah, that would probably explain it nicely, Paul.

--- In tuning@y..., Paul Hirsh <monxmood@f...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_29171.html#29171

This is just great.... congrats!

_______ _______ ________
Joseph Pehrson

Checked it out again. Like the Fokker board better. By the way,
sounds like you've fixed the pitch problem at the low end, Paul.
Curious to know what the problem was.

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., Paul Hirsh <monxmood@f...> wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_29171.html#29171
>
> This is just great.... congrats!
>
> _______ _______ ________
> Joseph Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., Paul Hirsh <monxmood@f...> wrote:
>
/tuning/topicId_29171.html#29171

Hello Paul...

Well, I should also mention that this is the first time I have
ever "played" the Bosanquet and Fokker keyboards! What a great
experience! I've never had the physical ones around me... so this
was a treat.

In addition, since some of your music was on the Sibelius "Scorch"
website, I downloaded Scorch for the first time.

I would recommend Tuning List members try this free program. It
really is the future of music dissemination...at least printed music,
I believe.

I saw the rep from Sibelius at the American Music Center and he
pretty much assured some of us that one *could* do microtonal music
with it as well. I believe pitch bends can be entered in for the
notes and they will play back correctly on most soundcards, although
I only saw a *very* limited demonstration of this... and rather under
duress, since there were only two composers of the room full who
wanted to see this feature.

Anyway, here is the website for Scorch. Again, it's free...:

http://www.sibelius.com/

________ _______ ______
Joseph Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., BobWendell@t... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_29171.html#29186

> > --- In tuning@y..., BobWendell@t... wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Paul. Neat! However, I wonder why none of the fine ears on
> this
> > > list have not yet commented on the tuning at the lower end of
> this
> > > keyboard.
> >
> > Maybe because no one else has tried it yet?
>
> Bob:
> Grin! Yeah, that would probably explain it nicely, Paul.

I'm getting this problem of the pitch slipping down on the low Cb on
the Bosaquet keyboard... but, aside from this one pitch, I'm not
detecting any problem (??)

I hope it's not *me* :)

________ _______ _________
Joseph Pehrson

The problem seems to be there no longer, Joe, so it's not you. It was
really severe the first couple of times I went there. Then later it
was gone and nothing on my computer was changed, so I assume some
"fix" was implemented.

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., BobWendell@t... wrote:
> > --- In tuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_29171.html#29186
>
> > > --- In tuning@y..., BobWendell@t... wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, Paul. Neat! However, I wonder why none of the fine ears
on
> > this
> > > > list have not yet commented on the tuning at the lower end of
> > this
> > > > keyboard.
> > >
> > > Maybe because no one else has tried it yet?
> >
> > Bob:
> > Grin! Yeah, that would probably explain it nicely, Paul.
>
>
> I'm getting this problem of the pitch slipping down on the low Cb
on
> the Bosaquet keyboard... but, aside from this one pitch, I'm not
> detecting any problem (??)
>
> I hope it's not *me* :)
>
> ________ _______ _________
> Joseph Pehrson

jpehrson@rcn.com wrote:

> --- In tuning@y..., Paul Hirsh <monxmood@f...> wrote:
> >
> /tuning/topicId_29171.html#29171
>
> Hello Paul...
>
> Well, I should also mention that this is the first time I have
> ever "played" the Bosanquet and Fokker keyboards! What a great
> experience! I've never had the physical ones around me... so this
> was a treat.
>
> In addition, since some of your music was on the Sibelius "Scorch"
> website, I downloaded Scorch for the first time.
>
> I would recommend Tuning List members try this free program. It
> really is the future of music dissemination...at least printed music,
> I believe.
>
> I saw the rep from Sibelius at the American Music Center and he
> pretty much assured some of us that one *could* do microtonal music
> with it as well. I believe pitch bends can be entered in for the
> notes and they will play back correctly on most soundcards, although
> I only saw a *very* limited demonstration of this... and rather under
> duress, since there were only two composers of the room full who
> wanted to see this feature.
>
> Anyway, here is the website for Scorch. Again, it's free...:
>
> http://www.sibelius.com/
>

There's a quarter -tone plug -in which allows you to play in 24 tet but on my (Mac) soundcard the
supposed 1/4 tone comes out sounding like a horrible little glissando. I haven't found a way of
'doing' microtonal music with Sibelius though programmers can write their own 3rd party bits. If
anyone has succeeded I'd love to know about it. On the other hand as a notation programme Sibelius
is excellent.

Regards.

--- In tuning@y..., Alison Monteith <alison.monteith3@w...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_29171.html#29314

>
> There's a quarter -tone plug -in which allows you to play in 24 tet
but on my (Mac) soundcard the
> supposed 1/4 tone comes out sounding like a horrible little
glissando. I haven't found a way of
> 'doing' microtonal music with Sibelius though programmers can write
their own 3rd party bits. If
> anyone has succeeded I'd love to know about it. On the other hand
as a notation programme Sibelius
> is excellent.
>
> Regards.

Hello Allison!

The gentleman (sales rep) who demonstrated this program at the
American Music Center was talking about some feature where one could
type in "cents deviation" from the standard written pitches
someplace, and it would come out with the right pitch bends when
these pieces were played back in Scorch.

Did you see anything of this nature in the manual??

Thanks!

_________ ________ ________
Joseph Pehrson