Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning La Monte Young, "inventor" of Minimalism

From this month's NewMusicBox interview with Terry Riley:

Riley:

"But I must say I think La Monte is the fountainhead of this modern
music period that's called minimalism in the sense that he defined
very clearly in his mind and in his work as a very young man, the
kind of space that minimalism holds. First of all you have this
space, then it's filled with something. Well La Monte filled it with
long tones and he also worked with repetition..."

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Joseph Pehrson

🔗David Beardsley <davidbeardsley@biink.com>

Wow. Thanks! I'll print this out and read it on the way to verk today.

db
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:25 AM
Subject: [tuning] La Monte Young, "inventor" of Minimalism

>From this month's NewMusicBox interview with Terry Riley:

Riley:

More here:

http://www.newmusicbox.org/

________ _______ _______
Joseph Pehrson

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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@anaphoria.com>

I wonder why Cage is left out of this one. But also can one invent what other cultures have done
for centuries.

jpehrson@rcn.com wrote:

> >From this month's NewMusicBox interview with Terry Riley:
>
> Riley:
>
> "But I must say I think La Monte is the fountainhead of this modern
> music period that's called minimalism in the sense that he defined
> very clearly in his mind and in his work as a very young man, the
> kind of space that minimalism holds. First of all you have this
> space, then it's filled with something. Well La Monte filled it with
> long tones and he also worked with repetition..."
>
> More here:
>
> http://www.newmusicbox.org/
>
> ________ _______ _______
>

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--- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

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> I wonder why Cage is left out of this one. But also can one invent
what other cultures have done

Good point, Kraig... and after all, the idea of finding out
who "invented" and "copyrighted" minimalism is pretty idiotic to
begin with, no??

Maybe you should write a comment over on the NewMusicBox about the
thing regarding minimalism and other cultures. I think Frank Oteri
would really appreciate that.

I believe you've posted over there before...

In 72ness...

_______ _______ _______ _____
Joseph Pehrson

🔗shreeswifty <ppagano@bellsouth.net>

just like manieri will take creds for 72
La Monte claims the 7/4
what will you choose as your Joe?

smoochies

Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
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Subject: [tuning] Re: La Monte Young, "inventor" of Minimalism

> --- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_24885.html#24911
>
> > I wonder why Cage is left out of this one. But also can one invent
> what other cultures have done
>
> Good point, Kraig... and after all, the idea of finding out
> who "invented" and "copyrighted" minimalism is pretty idiotic to
> begin with, no??
>
> Maybe you should write a comment over on the NewMusicBox about the
> thing regarding minimalism and other cultures. I think Frank Oteri
> would really appreciate that.
>
> I believe you've posted over there before...
>
> In 72ness...
>
> _______ _______ _______ _____
> Joseph Pehrson
>
>
>
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--- In tuning@y..., "shreeswifty" <ppagano@b...> wrote:

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> just like manieri will take creds for 72
> La Monte claims the 7/4
> what will you choose as your Joe?
>
> smoochies
>

As my Joe?? I'd rather have a cup of Java... Why don't I
copyright "consonance..." I'm already tired of it. My only hope is
in the hexanies!!!

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Joseph Pehrson

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--- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> I wonder why Cage is left out of this one. But also can one invent
what other cultures have done
> for centuries.

Good call. I just replaced my LP of Sonatas and Interldes for
Prepared Piano with a CD. Between that, the String Quartets and
the similarly themed Sonata for viola and Piano, one could
easily give Cage the Father of Minimalism award.

But if we take it out of the Western Art Music context then it
will just reach back forever.

Bob Valentine

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--- In tuning@y..., "Orphon Soul, Inc." <tuning@o...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_24885.html#24925

> On 6/11/01 11:56 PM, "jpehrson@r..." <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
>
> >> just like manieri will take creds for 72
> >> La Monte claims the 7/4
> >> what will you choose as your Joe?
> >>
> >> smoochies
> >>
> >
> > As my Joe?? I'd rather have a cup of Java... Why don't I
> > copyright "consonance..." I'm already tired of it. My only hope
is
> > in the hexanies!!!
>
> ::cough:: MIRACLE ::cough::
>
> :X

Should we say, "score one for McLaren...??" Dunno. I still think
there is a possibility of getting quite a range of consonance *and*
dissonance with the Miracle blackjack... But, I'm still a "beginner"
with it. In fact, I'm still a "beginner" in microtonality!

___________ ________ _______
Joseph Pehrson

🔗David Beardsley <davidbeardsley@biink.com>

Terry is very specific. He says that La Monte is the begining of a movement.
And he is - as far as minimalism in the late 20th century is concerned, he's
the source that fed the river.

I don't they labeled it minimalism. From the same interview:

"We spent a lot of time playing together and improvising together, but never thinking
about for instance "is this a kind of music" or "is there something this should be called?"
Uh, I think that came later."

I don't have time to look it up, but I think it's a tag created by the press.

David Beardsley

----- Original Message -----
From: Kraig Grady

I wonder why Cage is left out of this one. But also can one invent what other cultures have done for centuries.
jpehrson@rcn.com wrote:

>From this month's NewMusicBox interview with Terry Riley:
Riley:

🔗shreeswifty <ppagano@bellsouth.net>

i think Ed Stricklands Minimalism Origins is quite specific in regards to the "movement"

Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/
http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [tuning] La Monte Young, "inventor" of Minimalism

Terry is very specific. He says that La Monte is the begining of a movement.
And he is - as far as minimalism in the late 20th century is concerned, he's
the source that fed the river.

I don't they labeled it minimalism. From the same interview:

I don't have time to look it up, but I think it's a tag created by the press.

David Beardsley

----- Original Message -----
From: Kraig Grady

I wonder why Cage is left out of this one. But also can one invent what other cultures have done for centuries.
jpehrson@rcn.com wrote:

>From this month's NewMusicBox interview with Terry Riley:
Riley:

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🔗David Beardsley <davidbeardsley@biink.com>

Should read: Steve Reich points to.....

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [tuning] La Monte Young, "inventor" of Minimalism

He credits Richard Wollhein in Arts Magazine, 1/1965, while
Steve Reich Tom Johnson and Michael Nyman for applying the
term to music.

David Beardsley
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From: shreeswifty

i think Ed Stricklands Minimalism Origins is quite specific in regards to the "movement"

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