tuning-math@yahoogroups.com

I've started a new list so that those interested in the mathematical aspects of tuning can leave
those who aren't (perhaps 2 or 17 or 35 or 435 -- in any case, enough to deserve a break) with
a lighter flow of traffic.

I'd like to invite Marc, Monz and everyone else involved in mathematical discussions to move
them there. Perhaps we can persuade Carl Lumma to join as well.

--- In tuning@y..., paul@s... wrote:
> I've started a new list so that those interested in the mathematical
aspects of tuning can leave
> those who aren't (perhaps 2 or 17 or 35 or 435 -- in any case,
enough to deserve a break) with
> a lighter flow of traffic.

Oh no! Paul you should have done it the other way! Set up a new group
called "no-math-tuning" and invite everyone who thinks they can
discuss tuning without math, to go there.

I understand you are still smarting from having been slandered but I
don't think this is a good idea. I suppose this should have been on
the meta-tuning list?

On 5/21/01 1:05 AM, "paul@stretch-music.com" <paul@stretch-music.com> wrote:

> I've started a new list so that those interested in the mathematical aspects
> of tuning can leave
> those who aren't (perhaps 2 or 17 or 35 or 435 -- in any case, enough to
> deserve a break) with
> a lighter flow of traffic.
>
> I'd like to invite Marc, Monz and everyone else involved in mathematical
> discussions to move
> them there. Perhaps we can persuade Carl Lumma to join as well.

On 5/21/01 2:28 AM, "Orphon Soul, Inc." <tuning@orphonsoul.com> wrote:

> Why do I feel like a new list is going to start soon...
>

Excuse the overlap,
I was still replying to the previous post.
Prophetic, no?

Only if i can be the one banned this time!

paul@stretch-music.com wrote:

> I've started a new list so that those interested in the mathematical aspects of tuning can leave
> those who aren't (perhaps 2 or 17 or 35 or 435 -- in any case, enough to deserve a break) with
> a lighter flow of traffic.
>
> I'd like to invite Marc, Monz and everyone else involved in mathematical discussions to move
> them there. Perhaps we can persuade Carl Lumma to join as well.
>
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> From: Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@anaphoria.com>
> Subject: Re: tuning-math@yahoogroups.com
>
> Only if i can be the one banned this time!
>

Reuters : In an apparent software 'glitch', US strategic
forces were placed on DEFCON 3 operating status
when a yahoogroups user created a new group
and immediately banned himself from participating. Under
interogation by the defense department the user stated
that he had been "trying to become Groucho Marx via
recursion, I wanted to create a club that wouldn't have
me as a member". Defense officials were unavailable
for comment, but high-placed officials stated off the
record that it seemed to be an issue for the 'tuning
police', a comment the declined to clarify further.

Despite expressing those sentiments Kraig, you know
all this stuff backwards and forwards to the point you
can ignore it all and get on with the music. Thats
pretty much where I am in 12, but I did go through a
lot of hours with greasy hand tools trying to figure
out what I liked in 12, why, and how to extend it.

Which is to say when you do throw in a comment on
those groady math threads, it is very much on target and
to the point. Keep up the good wor

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--- In tuning@y..., "Dave Keenan" <D.KEENAN@U...> wrote:
> Oh no! Paul you should have done it the other way! Set up a new
group
> called "no-math-tuning" and invite everyone who thinks they can
> discuss tuning without math, to go there.

"Well, I'll tell him, but I don't think he'll be too keen. You see,
he's already got one."

"What?! Are you sure he's got one?"

"Oh, yes. It's very nice. ... Now, go away or I shall taunt you a
second time!"

But seriously, folks...

This is dead on. You obviously can't discuss the particulars of
tunings themselves without involving math. You can't quantify
a specific tuning without math. However, you can invent and
explore tunings, and discuss how you apply tunings to music, without
more than incidental references to the most rudimentary math, not
counting lists of ratios and cents and scale degrees. That's what the
Practicalmicro list (I still think "Applied" would be more accurate
than "Practical") is all about.

David J. Finnamore
Nashville, TN, USA
http://personal.bna.bellsouth.net/bna/d/f/dfin/index.html
--
"Seems like mathematics is the common denominator."

--- In tuning@y..., "Dave Keenan" <D.KEENAN@U...> wrote:

> Oh no! Paul you should have done it the other way! Set up a new
group
> called "no-math-tuning" and invite everyone who thinks they can
> discuss tuning without math, to go there.

--- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> Only if i can be the one banned this time!

On the contrary, I would hope that you would be an active participant
on this new list, since you've inspired so much of our work (and
music)!

--- In tuning@y..., "Dave Keenan" <D.KEENAN@U...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_23403.html#23404

>
> Oh no! Paul you should have done it the other way! Set up a new
group called "no-math-tuning" and invite everyone who thinks they can
> discuss tuning without math, to go there.
>

But, ...er, I thought that was what the "practical" list was all
about! (??) It's a little like building a table without using a
ruler... Rule of "thumb" (or "thumbs") I guess..

_________ ______ ______
Joseph Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_23403.html#23408

> Only if i can be the one banned this time!
>

Like the man sang, "EVERYBODY must get banned..."

________ _____ ______ ___
Joseph Pehrson

paul@stretch-music.com wrote:

> I've started a new list so that those interested in the mathematical aspects of tuning can leave
> those who aren't (perhaps 2 or 17 or 35 or 435 -- in any case, enough to deserve a break) with
> a lighter flow of traffic.
>
> I'd like to invite Marc, Monz and everyone else involved in mathematical discussions to move
> them there. Perhaps we can persuade Carl Lumma to join as well.

Any room for a lurker on the new list? If so where can I find it please?

Regards

> where can I find it please?

umm . . . try

/tuning-math

.