Is Paul really banned??

I can't access so-called "practicalmicrotonality" pish, right now,
but it is REALLY true that Paul has been banned??

If so, I would like to say that I find that entirely undemocratic.

I think I will go over there and filibuster and spam until I, too, am
banned.

What a jerky thing...

__________ _______ _________
Joseph Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> I can't access so-called "practicalmicrotonality" pish, right now,

It was down for 12 hours. Back up now.

> but it is REALLY true that Paul has been banned??
>
> If so, I would like to say that I find that entirely undemocratic.

Joseph, groups are not democracies. Might seem harsh but it is the
moderator's prerogative to invite, accept, and ban whom he will. If
he wants a practicallynopaulality list, that's his business, whether
we like it or not. Might you consider talking to him off list about
it?

> I think I will go over there and filibuster and spam until I, too,
am
> banned.

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

You don't want to get banned from Yahoo! Groups altogether, do you? I
don't want you to. You're too nice a guy. Get ahold of youself, man.

David F.

This is ridiculous!

This is general Yahoo policy:
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Paul, what obscene postings did you do there? And what warning did you get
before they were forced to take this measure?

That practical micro thing is advertised as an open, unmoderated group.

Kees

----- Original Message -----
From: "David J. Finnamore" <daeron@bellsouth.net>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:33 PM
Subject: [tuning] Re: Is Paul really banned??

> --- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > I can't access so-called "practicalmicrotonality" pish, right now,
>
> It was down for 12 hours. Back up now.
>
>
> > but it is REALLY true that Paul has been banned??
> >
> > If so, I would like to say that I find that entirely undemocratic.
>
> Joseph, groups are not democracies. Might seem harsh but it is the
> moderator's prerogative to invite, accept, and ban whom he will. If
> he wants a practicallynopaulality list, that's his business, whether
> we like it or not. Might you consider talking to him off list about
> it?
>
>
> > I think I will go over there and filibuster and spam until I, too,
> am
> > banned.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
> You don't want to get banned from Yahoo! Groups altogether, do you? I
> don't want you to. You're too nice a guy. Get ahold of youself, man.
>
> David F.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David J. Finnamore [mailto:daeron@bellsouth.net]

>groups are not democracies.

Well if its not a democracy, then it's totalitarian or fascist. One who runs
such a group shows his (true) ass, so to speak, in spite of all the
touchy-feely and gushing talk he may post.

>Might seem harsh but it is the
> moderator's prerogative to invite, accept, and ban whom he will.

And why, pray tell, would anyone want to exclude such an active and
knowledgeable microtonalist from their "microtonality" group? Must be some
kind of pathetic ego thing, unfortunately not the first time this particular
kind of neurosis would be played out in a group setting.

I'm still hoping that there has been some kind of technical glitch, and
actually noone has been banned. Unfortunately the silence of the so-called
list owner on this matter speaks volumes.

If you play Purple Haze in 22 backwards,
it says "Paul is banned, miss him, miss him."

:-PPPPPPP

im very sorry but im new to the group and im not sure what is going off with
this paul guy

all i want is to share ideas with people interested in microtones and get ideas
for my research project

cheers rob

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'this paul guy' is the one who has been helping you most here.

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Greco
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Is Paul really banned??

im very sorry but im new to the group and im not sure what is going off with this paul guy

all i want is to share ideas with people interested in microtones and get ideas for my research project

cheers rob

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obviously i dont know what the problem ishowever from what i know of paulhe has
givern me good suggestions and i am very thank full to himi hope i have not
caused a stiri thought i could get help with m study in this page, please
correct me if im wrongrob

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--- In tuning@y..., "Robert Greco" <robgreco@h...> wrote:

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>

You will find that Paul is a very generous person who gives his time
freely. He is also a brilliant mind, and you are lucky to be in
contact with him. Make the most of it before he disappears!

_________ _______ ________
Joseph Pehrson

Yes.

Kees van Prooijen wrote:

> 'this paul guy' is the one who has been helping you most here.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Greco
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Is Paul really banned??
> im very sorry but im new to the group and im not sure what
> is going off with this paul guy
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> all i want is to share ideas with people interested in
> microtones and get ideas for my research project
>
> cheers rob
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--- In tuning@y..., "Rosati" <dante.interport@r...> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David J. Finnamore [mailto:daeron@b...]
>
> >groups are not democracies.
>
> Well if its not a democracy, then it's totalitarian or fascist. One
who runs
> such a group shows his (true) ass, so to speak, in spite of all the
> touchy-feely and gushing talk he may post.
>
> >Might seem harsh but it is the
> > moderator's prerogative to invite, accept, and ban whom he will.
>
> And why, pray tell, would anyone want to exclude such an active and
> knowledgeable microtonalist from their "microtonality" group? Must
be some
> kind of pathetic ego thing, unfortunately not the first time this
particular
> kind of neurosis would be played out in a group setting.
>
> I'm still hoping that there has been some kind of technical glitch,
and
> actually noone has been banned. Unfortunately the silence of the
so-called
> list owner on this matter speaks volumes.

Dante,

I understand how upsetting this situation is, esp. to those of us who
love Paul E. and are deeply grateful for his role here. My personal
feelings about that are better known that perhaps I even intended for
them to be. (Strange how things work out sometimes!)

Just the same, do you happen to be familiar with the logical fallacy
known as the "false dilemma"? I respectfully request that you
consider each of your statements above in that light.

Thanks.

David F.