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Re: [tuning] why use "m2, M2, m3..."

🔗Pitchcolor@aol.com

5/18/2001 8:01:20 PM

In a message dated 5/18/01 11:45:03 AM, xjscott@earthlink.net writes:

<< Are we really ready to stop using all of
this bin descriptors just because they
have archaic numerical implications? >>

Yes, I for one would say I am very ready for that! Chuck 'em!

If we want categories, there's a simple way to get them without invoking any
archaic scale-degree claptrap. Not only that, we get much _more _useful
categories. But it involves a paradigm shift; it involves emptying one's
head of the historical monotonous blathering of traditional Rameau-style
music theory and all its out-dated assumptions which are still perpetuated by
academics.

Aaron

🔗jpehrson@rcn.com

5/20/2001 8:04:50 PM

--- In tuning@y..., Pitchcolor@a... wrote:

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>
> In a message dated 5/18/01 11:45:03 AM, xjscott@e... writes:
>
> << Are we really ready to stop using all of
> this bin descriptors just because they
> have archaic numerical implications? >>
>
> Yes, I for one would say I am very ready for that! Chuck 'em!
>
> If we want categories, there's a simple way to get them without
invoking any archaic scale-degree claptrap. Not only that, we get
much _more _useful categories. But it involves a paradigm shift; it
involves emptying one's head of the historical monotonous blathering
of traditional Rameau-style music theory and all its out-dated
assumptions which are still perpetuated by academics.
>
> Aaron

Well and, of course, I wouldn't suggest this change if you're still
working with any "traditional" live performers...

________ ________ _______
Joseph Pehrson

🔗Pitchcolor@aol.com

5/20/2001 9:09:21 PM

In a message dated 5/20/01 10:06:01 PM, jpehrson@rcn.com writes:

<< > In a message dated 5/18/01 11:45:03 AM, xjscott@e... writes:
>
> << Are we really ready to stop using all of
> this bin descriptors just because they
> have archaic numerical implications? >>
>
> Yes, I for one would say I am very ready for that! Chuck 'em!
>
> If we want categories, there's a simple way to get them without
invoking any archaic scale-degree claptrap. Not only that, we get
much _more _useful categories. But it involves a paradigm shift; it
involves emptying one's head of the historical monotonous blathering
of traditional Rameau-style music theory and all its out-dated
assumptions which are still perpetuated by academics.
>
> Aaron

Well and, of course, I wouldn't suggest this change if you're still
working with any "traditional" live performers...

________ ________ _______
Joseph Pehrson
>>

My apologies for the hostile tone of that post, and Joseph, your point is
duly noted. I personally use terms like "minor/major seconds" etc. for
describing tunings just like anyone else. I just think it's absurd when you
really think about it, and a conceptual liberation from these out-dated ideas
would be a positive change for "traditional" musicians, allowing many more
minds to be open to more flexible ways of thinking.

Aaron