I-Drive

Robert Walker made an excellent suggestion to use I-Drive for backing
up files.

Actually, I already had an "I-Drive" account, but if some people on
the list don't know about this valuable site, maybe they would like
to...

You get 50 megs free storage space on this site, in return for
reading a few ads...

Presently, I have uploaded virtually ALL my important music and
administrative files. I intend to be HARD DRIVE FREE!!! after my
recent devastating crash...

Another point is the fact that I was always trying to keep some
crucial music files OFF SITE, in case there was a fire or something
in my apartment...

Well... some composers INTENTIONALLY burn their works, particularly
early ones, but if it happened to me, most likely it would be an
accident...

With the Internet, of course, such "off site" storage is a breeze...
and available from ANY computer connected to the Internet.

The site to go to is:

https://www.idrive.com/

Certainly a VERY valuable resource...

_________ _____ _____ ____
Joseph Pehrson

Joe,

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> Robert Walker made an excellent suggestion to use I-Drive for
> backing up files. You get 50 megs free storage space on this
> site, in return for reading a few ads...

Got any idea what uploading 50 megs of data on a phone line is like?
And what if the servers (like Yahoo recently) are down if you need
the data? Or to just use at another workstation?

I can burn, in a matter of minutes, a data CD with, what, 740mb of
data and then just store it somewhere "offsite". If I need the stuff
on someone elses computer (say, to play a big .wav file or
something), I just pop the CD in their drive.

CD-R(W) drives are ridiculously cheap, and the media are well below
$.50 a disc. I can't imagine life without it, at this point.

Not to mention producing all your own music CDs...

Just a thought.

Cheers,
Jon

Anyone found a good solution for CD labels that don't melt of come off in machines or other ways
of tackling the problem. I thought a light sanding might work but the layer is amazingly thin

JSZANTO@ADNC.COM wrote:

>
> Not to mention producing all your own music CDs...
>
> Just a thought.

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

Kraig,

--- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> Anyone found a good solution for CD labels that don't melt of come
off in machines or other ways
> of tackling the problem. I thought a light sanding might work but
the layer is amazingly thin

I haven't had a long-term relationship with labels, and haven't in
the last year or so had problems with them coming off. You might try
different label stock and see if they are better. As far as office
supplies, Avery sure seems the leader in stick-on labels, so maybe
their stock would hold up the best.

What do I do about the *commercial* CDs whose printed-on labelling
has become sticky and a hazard???

Cheers,
Jon

--- In tuning@y..., JSZANTO@A... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_22982.html#22990

> Joe,
>
> --- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > Robert Walker made an excellent suggestion to use I-Drive for
> > backing up files. You get 50 megs free storage space on this
> > site, in return for reading a few ads...
>
> Got any idea what uploading 50 megs of data on a phone line is
like?

Not recently, because I use a cable modem.

> And what if the servers (like Yahoo recently) are down if you need
> the data? Or to just use at another workstation?
>

What if you lose the CD, or have to go to a different city to
retrieve it... which is what I was doing before...

> I can burn, in a matter of minutes, a data CD with, what, 740mb of
> data and then just store it somewhere "offsite". If I need the
stuff
> on someone elses computer (say, to play a big .wav file or
> something), I just pop the CD in their drive.
>
> CD-R(W) drives are ridiculously cheap, and the media are well below
> $.50 a disc. I can't imagine life without it, at this point.
>

Of course, you can do that, too. It's just that it's nice to get
data out of the "material world" into cyberspace. Robert Walker had
a great idea.

Naturally, I know you like the "corporal," so that's why you like
material objets...

_________ ______ _______ ___
Joseph Pehrson

Joe,

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> Not recently, because I use a cable modem.

Aha, yes, but not everyone does, and that is one downside to online
storage of *large* data sets.

> What if you lose the CD, or have to go to a different city to
> retrieve it... which is what I was doing before...

I don't have control over internet servers, but I'm smart enough to
hang on to a CD. If having large data when you travel is an issue,
then I suppose iDrive is cool.

> Of course, you can do that, too. It's just that it's nice to get
> data out of the "material world" into cyberspace. Robert Walker
had
> a great idea.

Works for some, not for all, but in your scenario it looks like it
would be fun.

> Naturally, I know you like the "corporal," so that's why you like
> material objets...

Just being practical, as iDrive may not be the best solution for
everyone. And if I felt like I wasn't at home in cyberspace, would I
be a webmaster?

(where it would be handy to have that cable modem...must have...must
have.........)

Cheers,
Jon

--- In tuning@y..., JSZANTO@A... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_22982.html#23014

> And if I felt like I wasn't at home in cyberspace, would I
> be a webmaster?
>
> (where it would be handy to have that cable modem...
> must have...must have.........)
>
> Cheers,
> Jon

Jon,

Consider DSL as an alternative. AT&T was giving a special
offer a couple of months ago and I got one. It's $100 for
the DSL modem and only $50 a month for the service (pretty
good savings over the cable). 13 times faster than dial-up.

Don't know how long the sale ran - it may still be on.
They were offering it because DSL was newly arrived in
our part of San Diego.

-monz
http://www.monz.org
"All roads lead to n^0"

Hi there,

I use off-site web storage for fairly small files that I
want to keep updating.

Main ex. : c-code backups for my programs in my case.

Also - the nwc files. List of all my passwords and usernames.
That sort of thing.

Still have a 56K modem, so it wouldn't be practical for
multiple megabyte things. Also 50 Mb will soon fill up with
large files.

But is good, at the end of the day or whatever, to be able
to just upload a zip of your c-code, or whatever it is, to
an off-site address as well as to backup to extra file on
hard disk (where I keep backups of the c-code for the last
ten minor revisions as a regular thing, using a batch file
to do a sequential move of the 9th oldest to 10th oldest,
8th to 9th, ... and copy of up to date c-code to the most
recent backup) and to media.

One could do multiple off-site backups by signing up at both
I-drive and X-drive.

CD writer seems a good solution for large files. I still use a
zip drive for large files that I want to backup,
but zip disks don't have so much storage as a cd.
A cd-writer could be a pretty useful thing to have,...

Anyway, the more backups the better I feel. Apart from anything
else, if any of them fail for any reason, one has the others,
and for important things, just in case two of them fail
simultaneously, as could happen (e.g. you accidentally delete
contents of a file, don't realise, and then backup the
empty file to your regular backup), you still have another
backup to fall back to.

System administrators and so forth i believe backup everything at the
end of the day and have a backup for each day of the week, each month
of the year, and so forth , or such like systems. Programmers
are often compulsive backer ups.

Robert

--- In tuning@y..., robertinventor@h... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_22982.html#23017

Hi Robert and Jon!

I think Robert has a good point here... it really doesn't matter
*HOW* you back things up as long as you *DO.*

I got "off the hook" pretty well on my hard drive crash. So far,
because of backups, I lost only 1 hour of data entry of a list that I
had neglected to save. Everything else was backed up on floppies,
CDs or on-line...

I'm pretty "compulsive" about it, but Robert's right... with
computers, no amount of backup is excessive!

________ _______ _______
Joseph Pehrson

Joe,

--- In tuning@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
> Consider DSL as an alternative. AT&T was giving a special
> offer a couple of months ago and I got one.

Yes, I've been giving it some thought, and I saw that same thing. I
may dump the second phone line (ah, the fax...) and go that way.

Thx,
Jon

R,

--- In tuning@y..., robertinventor@h... wrote:
> Anyway, the more backups the better I feel.

Oh, you bet!

> System administrators and so forth i believe backup everything at
the
> end of the day and have a backup for each day of the week, each
month
> of the year, and so forth , or such like systems. Programmers
> are often compulsive backer ups.

That would be me, with three or four differing backups that run
automatically, bupping to a separate HD, CD-RW and Zip disks. Copies
stored in two different sites. And backups on my laptop, to travel
and for safety.

Anal retentiveness saves the day. Robert, you truly have the heart of
a programmer (said with great affection!).

Cheers,
Jon

Joe,

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> I'm pretty "compulsive" about it, but Robert's right... with
> computers, no amount of backup is excessive!

I'm so in agreement I wouldn't have minded if you had put that in all
caps!! :)

Cheers,
Jon

--- In tuning@y..., JSZANTO@A... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_22982.html#23025

> Joe,
>
> --- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > I'm pretty "compulsive" about it, but Robert's right... with
> > computers, no amount of backup is excessive!
>
> I'm so in agreement I wouldn't have minded if you had put that in
all
> caps!! :)
>
> Cheers,
> Jon

SOUNDS GOOD, JON!!!

__________ ________ _______
Joseph Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_22982.html#23015

> Jon,
>
> Consider DSL as an alternative. AT&T was giving a special
> offer a couple of months ago and I got one. It's $100 for
> the DSL modem and only $50 a month for the service (pretty
> good savings over the cable). 13 times faster than dial-up.
>

Hi Monz!

Prices are changing, at least in New York (we are, though, in
a "high-tech" "media" building...)

RCN: $69.00 per month for BOTH cable modem and full-featured
telephone service, local and long distance.

No more phone company! Yea!

__________ ______ ______ ____
Joseph Pehrson

jpehrson@rcn.com wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_22982.html#23015
>
>
> > Jon,
> >
> > Consider DSL as an alternative. AT&T was giving a special
> > offer a couple of months ago and I got one. It's $100 for
> > the DSL modem and only $50 a month for the service (pretty
> > good savings over the cable). 13 times faster than dial-up.
> >
>
> Hi Monz!
>
> Prices are changing, at least in New York (we are, though, in
> a "high-tech" "media" building...)
>
> RCN: $69.00 per month for BOTH cable modem and full-featured
> telephone service, local and long distance.
>
> No more phone company! Yea!

I live in NJ - $40 a month.

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On 5/17/01 2:35 AM, "JSZANTO@ADNC.COM" <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM> wrote:

> What do I do about the *commercial* CDs whose printed-on labelling
> has become sticky and a hazard???

Actually, silkscreening *on* the disc has become a lot less expensive,
even if you're only making a 100 copies...
in NYC there's a few places that advertise in the Village Voice,
even with a small booklet, it's still only a couple dollars a CD.

Marc

--- In tuning@y..., robertinventor@h... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_22982.html#23017

> Hi there,
>
> I use off-site web storage for fairly small files that I
> want to keep updating.
>
> Main ex. : c-code backups for my programs in my case.
>
> Also - the nwc files. List of all my passwords and usernames.

Thanks, Robert! That's something I wasn't doing. Good idea!

_______ _____ _____
Joseph Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., robertinventor@h... wrote:
>
> /tuning/topicId_22982.html#23017
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I use off-site web storage for fairly small files that I
> > want to keep updating.
> >
> > Main ex. : c-code backups for my programs in my case.
> >
> > Also - the nwc files. List of all my passwords and usernames.
>

Hello, storing passwords on the internet, on any site, is quite
risky. unless the site is secure [as shown, for example, by "https:"].
All sites are quite vulnerable to hackers. That is how passwords and
credit card numbers are stolen.
Haresh.

--- In tuning@y..., "Haresh BAKSHI" <hareshbakshi@h...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_22982.html#23290

> --- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > --- In tuning@y..., robertinventor@h... wrote:
> >
> > /tuning/topicId_22982.html#23017
> >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I use off-site web storage for fairly small files that I
> > > want to keep updating.
> > >
> > > Main ex. : c-code backups for my programs in my case.
> > >
> > > Also - the nwc files. List of all my passwords and usernames.
> >
>
> Hello, storing passwords on the internet, on any site, is quite
> risky. unless the site is secure [as shown, for example,
by "https:"].
> All sites are quite vulnerable to hackers. That is how passwords
and
> credit card numbers are stolen.
> Haresh.

Thanks, Haresh, for the tip.

"I-Drive" which is what we were discussing, *IS* an "https" site...

_______ ______ _____
Joseph Pehrson