Re:Tuning Posts Zip

Hi everyone,

Here's a zip of the last 1000 tuning posts organised by subject, author and date.

http://members.nbci.com/tune_smithy/tree/tuning_19350-20350.zip
1,437 Kb

May help those who are looking for material they have already posted to the TL,
and want to use for the FAQ.

At this rate, would run to about 28.5 Mb zipped for the complete archive.

I'm thinking about possiblity of releasing the program that can make this, but
aren't so sure about whether one should. If one person downloads a complete archive,
it isn't going to affect anyone, but it would work for any e-groups group, and if a whole
lot of people simultaneously download the complete archives of their groups, that's
a lot of bandwidth!

It's so easy to do with this program that I imagine it could be quite a popular
freebie!

Anyone got any thoughts on this?

Also, not altogether sure about how it is copyright wise,

I feel it is okay if one is doing it for the use of other members of the
group, who can search for the messages on-line anyway, but would welcome
comments, and will withdraw it if anyone thinks it is a breach of copyright
in any way.

Treat it as a kind of experiment.

Pretty much the same as the tuning posts we receive, except that of course,
it doesn't have the complete e-mail addresses, as those are protected from access
by ftp.

I could download the archives of the justmusic, and harmonic entropy groups
in the same way if desired.

Or, maybe someone with a fast connection would like to do it - easy to do,
just run my program fill in the first and last message number you want to
download, and click a couple of buttons. (Promise not to release it!)

I plan to make the FAQ tree making program a free and open source program,

(could leave out the section that makes the groups archives if it is
problematical to include it).

Not sure how useful the complete program will be to other programmers as
it is written in windows c at rather a low level, lots of use of
malloc etc, which most C++ programmers never go near!

Style is low level too. (I've never learnt C++ as C has always
been fine for me and I've been able to do anything needed using
c so far).

However, does have some nice routines that could be useful to use.

For instance, I devised a new structure
typedef struct
{
char *sz;
int ipos;
int itotal_length;
char szPFile[MAX_PATH];
}
SFILE;

which one can use in place of the usual FILE * of c.

At present it is only implemented for sfopen(..,"w") and
for sfprintf(...) (obviously, the same syntax as fopen(..)
and fprintf(..), but may eventually extend it to
other c stdio type subroutines.

The idea of it is that you can use SFILE *pointers instead
of FILE *pointers and just do a search and replace of your
code to make code that runs in Windows using the efficient
file handles instead of file pointers, which makes it easy
to port code to / from other environments, plus fprintf
is a very nice function to be able to use, which you don't really
have anything like in Windows low level c file i.o.

One usually ends up using sprintf instead and keeping track
of ones position in the output string, which this method does
automatically.

(
programming details:
sfprintf increments the ipos variable whenever you use it,
and checks the itotal_length, and reallocs the sz if nec.
and sfopen(..) puts the desired path into szPFile[..], which
is then used to save the file using the faster Windows file
handles when you choose sfclose(..)
)

However that will mainly appeal to those who work in c at a fairly
low level too, I imagine.

Also some nice wrapper functions for the Tree view, and
some other sprintf like things such as
sprintAddToComboNoDuplicatesExactLC(..)
to make it possible to add a string to a combo, at the same
time convert it to lower case, format it sprintf style,
and check for duplicates. I use that one a lot!

Could be useful to some?

Robert

--- In tuning@y..., "Robert Walker" <robert_walker@r...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_20367.html#20367

> Hi everyone,
>
> Here's a zip of the last 1000 tuning posts organised by subject,
author and date.
>
> http://members.nbci.com/tune_smithy/tree/tuning_19350-20350.zip
> 1,437 Kb
>
> May help those who are looking for material they have already
posted
to the TL, and want to use for the FAQ.

This is really execellent, and valuable. However, is it necessary
that all the posts be in HTML? I imagine if somehow they could all
be converted to text, like a whole string of "Digest Mode" messages,
the size would be much smaller (??) But, perhaps that's not
possible...

>
> At this rate, would run to about 28.5 Mb zipped for the complete
archive.
>

Well, these days that's not so large, and it would be valuable to
have a "backup" of the Tuning List. After all, the former archives
of the Mills List have been mostly lost, apparently, and we wouldn't
want that to happen to this list. Of course, there is lots of
nonsense on this list, part of which I am responsible for posting,
but
there are some great "gems" as well...

> I'm thinking about possiblity of releasing the program that can
make this, but aren't so sure about whether one should. If one person
downloads a complete archive, it isn't going to affect anyone, but it
would work for any e-groups group, and if a whole lot of people
simultaneously download the complete archives of their groups, that's
> a lot of bandwidth!

Do you think that if this program were posted through the Tuning List
that ALL the other egroups would find out about it. I guess that's
possible, but I would rather doubt it...

>
> It's so easy to do with this program that I imagine it could be
quite a popular freebie!
>
> Anyone got any thoughts on this?
>
> Also, not altogether sure about how it is copyright wise,
>
> I feel it is okay if one is doing it for the use of other members
of the group, who can search for the messages on-line anyway, but
would welcome comments, and will withdraw it if anyone thinks it is a
breach of copyright in any way.
>

Well, it's pretty easy to copy messages as it is, so I really don't
see what the difference is. Members are pretty much responsible
THEMSELVES to adhere to the copyright code, and not SELL the content
of the posts. Frankly, I believe the possibility of selling posts is
a rather remote one. (Anybody want to buy some?? :) )

> Treat it as a kind of experiment.
>
> Pretty much the same as the tuning posts we receive, except that of
course, it doesn't have the complete e-mail addresses, as those are
protected from access by ftp.
>
> Could be useful to some?

I think VERY. If it's not wise that we all have this program (I
don't really see any problems) then perhaps the entire archive should
be downloaded onto CD-ROM or some such.

I would certainly be willing to PAY expenses to receive such a
CD-ROM... as a backup, and I don't really believe this is a violation
of copyright, since my own personal use, and I imagine that of
everybody elses, would be exclusively as an educational tool, not as
a commercial enterprise...

Thanks!

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Joseph Pehrson