OT: Streaming Real Audio without a server (was Re: [tuning] new piece up || tyj & streaming)

David Beardsley wrote:
>
> Pat Pagano wrote:
> >
> > david
> > could you explain for us the process for creating a simple .ram streaming file?
> > thanks
> > pagano...
>
> You obviously already know, why don't you explain the process?

Pardon me, I was checking out yer web site and I guess you may not know.

1. create the sample.ra file with the Real Audio encoder (free
download!)
2. open a text editor and create a file - call it sample.ram
3. in that text file, type a link to the rm file.

for example:

http://www.domain.name.org/sample.ram

4. in your html code, use a link to sample.ram. When a user clicks
on the link, the ram file launches Real Audio player and streams the
ra file.

And, uh, Pat - return my phone calls.

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David,

Didn't you make an unintended typo, with ramifications to it?

--- In tuning@y..., David Beardsley <xouoxno@v...> wrote:
> 1. create the sample.ra file with the Real Audio encoder (free
> download!)
> 2. open a text editor and create a file - call it sample.ram
> 3. in that text file, type a link to the rm file.
>
> for example:
>
> http://www.domain.name.org/sample.ram
>
> 4. in your html code, use a link to sample.ram. When a user clicks
> on the link, the ram file launches Real Audio player and streams
the
> ra file.

First off, Pat needs to be clear what the audio file ended up as: .ra
or .rm (earlier versions defaulted to .ra; if it's a recent
encoder, .rm would be the file.

Then the line in the text file, named "sample.ram" would need to
correctly point to the audio file:

http://www.domain.name.org/sample.ra
^
or
http://www.domain.name.org/sample.rm
^

Right?

HTH,
Jon

--- In tuning@y..., David Beardsley <xouoxno@v...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_19046.html#19046

> David Beardsley wrote:
> >
> > Pat Pagano wrote:
> > >
> > > david
> > > could you explain for us the process for creating a simple .ram
streaming file?
> > > thanks
> > > pagano...
> >
> > You obviously already know, why don't you explain the process?
>
> Pardon me, I was checking out yer web site and I guess you may not
know.
>
> 1. create the sample.ra file with the Real Audio encoder (free
> download!)
> 2. open a text editor and create a file - call it sample.ram
> 3. in that text file, type a link to the rm file.
>
> for example:
>
> http://www.domain.name.org/sample.ram
>
> 4. in your html code, use a link to sample.ram. When a user clicks
> on the link, the ram file launches Real Audio player and streams
the ra file.
>

Thanks, David, for this information. It probably should be
mentioned,
though, that not all providers are set up to handle this. When I
used
to have my pages only on Compuserve, I tried the above method and it
would not work because of this limitation....

________ ____ _____ __
Joseph Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., JSZANTO@A... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_19046.html#19057

> David,
>
> Didn't you make an unintended typo, with ramifications to it?
>

I was puzzling over this for a few minutes myself, but then decided
that David must know what he is doing.

I'm glad, Jon, that you took the RAM by the horns!

_______ _____ _____ _
Joseph Pehrson

--- In tuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., David Beardsley <xouoxno@v...> wrote:
> /tuning/topicId_19046.html#19046

> Thanks, David, for this information. It probably should be
> mentioned, though, that not all providers are set up to handle
> this. When I used to have my pages only on Compuserve, I
> tried the above method and it would not work because of this
> limitation....

Joe, I don't believe you are correct, or, rather, your problem was
actually something different.

To do *real* streaming, where multiple users can hear the stream
simultaneously, you need the RealServer software in place *at the
host*. The method that David details above, known as "http streaming"
will work on any website, the caveat being that too many simultaneous
requests will cause dropouts.

I used that method as far back as early 1997, before I started
hosting the Partch site where the host would install RealServer (1997
being around the Paleolithic in web years).

Correctly done, you can make this work anywhere, and only need the
end-user to have the RealAudio plug-in installed (which it is,
virtually everywhere). Not the best way to listen to music, but
definitely better than none if music if the purpose of the site.

Cheers,
Jon

--- In tuning@y..., JSZANTO@A... wrote:

/tuning/topicId_19046.html#19101

>
> Joe, I don't believe you are correct, or, rather, your problem was
> actually something different.
>
> To do *real* streaming, where multiple users can hear the stream
> simultaneously, you need the RealServer software in place *at the
> host*.

Thank you, Jon. Actually, I *HAVE* read about this. I believe you
also need two dedicated computers hosting too, if I am not mistaken...

>The method that David details above, known as "http
streaming" will work on any website, the caveat being that too many
simultaneous requests will cause dropouts.
>

OK, then somehow I managed to do it wrong. When anybody "clicked on"
my site, all it wanted to do was save the file to their hard drive,
not a very good "streaming" method, really. Undoubtedly, though, the
"imbedded" address in the text file has to point to the correct Real
Audio file in the directory (!!)

> I used that method as far back as early 1997, before I started
> hosting the Partch site where the host would install RealServer
(1997 being around the Paleolithic in web years).
>
> Correctly done, you can make this work anywhere, and only need the
> end-user to have the RealAudio plug-in installed (which it is,
> virtually everywhere). Not the best way to listen to music, but
> definitely better than none if music if the purpose of the site.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon

Thanks, Jon. Presently I uses mp3.com, which everybody loves to
hate, but if I try more "streaming" on my page I may ask you for
advice if it doesn't work... if you don't mind. Thanks for the help!

joe
______ _______ _____ ____ _
Joseph Pehrson