Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Bad review of Bad review

Joe!
The first thing I wanted to see if any response would change the
subject.:) Sorry i was not going to continue that as a thread.

I quite understand the purposes of subjects to follow threads!

As already pointed out, a search engine like Google can list every
single one of these posts when running the name Warren Burk. This seems
to me a possible disservice.

It is a truism that bad press is better than none at all. I totally
disagree and experience has shown that this is not the case. I want to
know how much bad press they have had to bear. The bad press i have
gotten has done nothing but fostered misunderstanding and implied i did
things I do not. It might have been true at one time. Frankly if someone
did the same to me on this list I would be quite upset. Maybe the
problem is in the first post Subject. Maybe it was supposed to be funny.

Another question this brings up is the animals referred to as
"Reviewers" (Differing from interviewers or writers of previews etc.).
Do we need them? do they really tell us any thing especially if they are
bad. When good they can direct our attention to aspects we are
overlooking, but if they are bad , what is gained outside of the writer
getting paid to state they don't understand what is going on. In my
overly personal view, i think reviews are useful to helping others
understand someone's work, If this is not possible i think silence is
better than a bad review.

I only read review when i miss a concert that i didn't know was
happening and frankly i only care about what it is they did and am glad
if the reviewer liked it, if they didn't like it, i could really care
less!

Maybe things are different in New York. It is well known in L.A. that
you will not get reviewed if you do not buy advertising for your
concerts. Why and how can you take such a thing seriously.

JSZANTO@ADNC.COM wrote:

> Um, Kraig...
>
> --- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> > Just kidding
> > I chose this as a subject to illustrate the tastelessness of
> repeating
> > the below as a subject title.
>
> You know, don't you, that for eons mailing lists have maintained a
> particular paradigm, known as "threads". The first message starts
> with a subject, and any replies to it (and, in a *well programmed
> mailing list*, the replies to the replies) will prepend "Re: " to
> that subject matter.
>
> The entire reason for this is that if you subscribe in a normal
> manner (i.e. non-digest), you can use your email client to 'walk' the
> thread of the subject and all it's replies, instead of looking at the
> posts as they come in chronologically.
>
> It is *not* the individual people, writing their messages, who are
> repeating it. You *can* change a subject header by just writing a new
> post, but that defeats the purpose of being able to follow a thread.
>
> And this is from someone who considers Warren a real swell guy!
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@anaphoria.com>

No Joe was a typo or mental short circuit!
I said what i had to say and people can do as they wish. It is only my
own myopic perception I throw into the mix.

JSZANTO@ADNC.COM wrote:

> Kraig! Kraig! Kraig!
>
> This is Jon Szanto! You didn't read carefully, and attibuted all that
> I wrote about the "subject lines" to Joe Pehrson!!
>
> Sometimes it just isn't *clear* if people have noticed like threads
> and such. I intended no offense in suggesting the idea that you had
> not noticed the replies, etc.
>
> Please don't be angry at others over what *I* wrote -- if you have a
> beef, have it with me! Or textured tofu beef-substitute, which would
> be more in tune with my diet... :)
>
> Best,
> Jon (back to the opera, and then home to work on Partch...)
>
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--- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

/tuning/topicId_18908.html#18908

> It is a truism that bad press is better than none at all. I
totally disagree and experience has shown that this is not the case. I
want to know how much bad press they have had to bear. The bad press i
have gotten has done nothing but fostered misunderstanding and implied
i did things I do not. It might have been true at one time. Frankly if
someone did the same to me on this list I would be quite upset. Maybe
the problem is in the first post Subject.
>

Kraig!

This was just the point. The original post said "Warren Burt review
cancelled." That's all. It wasn't supposed to be funny... There was
NOTHING about a "bad" review in the subject line. The review, for
better or worse, is IN the tuning list archives and it really is not
all that bad. It mostly just states that I don't like "automatic"
algorithmic composition. It has MANY NICE things to say about Warren
Burt as well...

HOWEVER, since he is appearing on the upcoming Microfest, which I will
be attending and, ADDITIONALLY, I am meeting more and more friends who
know him personally, I have chosen to ask the editor of the
publication I submitted it to to DROP the review. This is JUST
BECAUSE I AGREE with you that bad press is *NOT* good press, it's
still BAD.

To paraphrase Gertrude Stein, "bad press is bad press is baaaaad!"

So the review is gone, poofo! Off the record, and I would even get it
off the Yahoo ARCHIVE if I could, but that's not possible.

Warren Burt is a very nice guy and is doing MANY interesting things
with computers. And, for myself, I am pretty much resigning from any
kind of music reviewing, mostly for the many reasons that you state
above!

_______ ____ _____ _
Joseph Pehrson

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@anaphoria.com>

Joseph!
This clears this up for me, Thanks

jpehrson@rcn.com wrote:

>
> Kraig!
>
> This was just the point. The original post said "Warren Burt review
> cancelled." That's all. It wasn't supposed to be funny... There was
> NOTHING about a "bad" review in the subject line. The review, for
> better or worse, is IN the tuning list archives and it really is not
> all that bad. It mostly just states that I don't like "automatic"
> algorithmic composition. It has MANY NICE things to say about Warren
> Burt as well...
>

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm