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Triolins

🔗Sarn Richard Ursell <thcdelta@ihug.co.nz>

2/9/2001 11:36:09 PM

Dear Tuners,

Checkout this website adress and tell me what you're thoughts are for making
variants on this violin;s construction with the tribonacci ratios.

http://au.ask.com/main/metaanswer.asp?metaEngine=directhit&origin=0&MetaURL=
http%3A%2F%2Faskau%2Edirecthit%2Ecom%2Ffcgi%2Dbin%2FRedirURL%2Efcg%3Furl%3Dh
ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emcs%2Esurrey%2Eac%2Euk%2FPersonal%2FR%2EKnott%2FFibonacci%
2FfibInArt%2Ehtml%26qry%3DThe%2BGolden%2BProportion%26rnk%3D2%26src%3DDH%5FA
skAU%5FSRCH&qCategory=sci_&metaTopic=The+Golden+Section+in+Art%2C+Architectu
re+and+Music&ItemOrdinal=1&logQID=057DE7A5A03E3C4389E099406668C6C7

Sarn.

🔗jpehrson@rcn.com

2/10/2001 8:06:10 AM

--- In tuning@y..., Sarn Richard Ursell <thcdelta@i...> wrote:

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> Dear Tuners,
>
> Checkout this website adress and tell me what you're thoughts are
for makingvariants on this violin;s construction with the tribonacci
ratios.
>
>
http://au.ask.com/main/metaanswer.asp?metaEngine=directhit&origin=0&Me
taURL=http%3A%2F%2Faskau%2Edirecthit%2Ecom%2Ffcgi%2Dbin%2FRedirURL%2Ef
cg%3Furl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emcs%2Esurrey%2Eac%2Euk%2FPersonal%2FR%2E
Knott%2FFibonacci%2FfibInArt%2Ehtml%26qry%3DThe%2BGolden%2BProportion%
26rnk%3D2%26src%3DDH%5FAskAU%5FSRCH&qCategory=sci_&metaTopic=The+Golde
n+Section+in+Art%2C+Arcitecture+and+Music&ItemOrdinal=1&logQID=057DE7A
5A03E3C4389E099406668C6C7
>
> Sarn.

Hello Sarn...

I have just checked out this website address and it is, indeed, so
interesting, that I don't even have to go to the page. Thanks for
posting it.... :)

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Joseph Pehrson

🔗Clark <CACCOLA@NET1PLUS.COM>

2/10/2001 7:54:39 AM

Hi, Sarn;

Try as I might, I couldn't even copy & paste your hyperlink. Is this the
same?
<http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibInArt.html>

A number of treatise attempt to correlate geometry with historic musical
instrument making. Kevin Coates' "Geometry, Proportion and the art of
Lutherie" is an outstanding modern example, and who analyzes a broad
range of Baroque string instruments. To be sure, it's difficult to
deduce exactly the intents of past makers and which has exasperated the
violin community since the most famous of makers.

Stephen Birkett and William Jurgenson bring attention to GPAOL and
similar works at the start of their paper, "Fortepiano design" - while
attractively complicated, these analyses often fail to account for
working practice. Rather than supplant any geometric genesis, however,
they attempt to generalize it. With the somewhat controversial premise
that the Viennese grands they surveyed aren't exactly perfect (although
there's a tremendous fudgery about lute ribbing in Early Music), their
findings don't require such high levels of mathematical knowledge from
the builders, either. A modular, sqrt(2), sqrt(5) or phi-based layout
can be accomplished with few tools and may be expressed verbally. Last I
checked, this was at <http://www.aps.uoguelph.ca/~birketts/>

I'll be measuring a somewhat later, English grand at the end of this
month which I suspect also has a geometric conception, perhaps even more
tightly so than the Viennese. I've never seen or heard it, though and
can't really say whether it's successful (not that this should
discourage me from reproducing it...).

Oddly enough, Hal Rammel built an instrument called the triolin, which
you can see in the image gallery at <http://oddmusic.com/>

Clark