Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup metatuning I don't get it... the "ass-Sault"

So, it appears that Peter Wakefield Sault has made some boarderline
anti-Semitic remarks on a bizarro website. (I guess he's a "semi-anti-
Semite...")

However, if he were truly a virulent anti-Semite, why would he be
objecting so and threatening people who called him that? I don't get
it.

Why wouldn't he just say: "Well, that's *me* buddy-o, and if you
want to know the *real* truth, etc., etc. go to this website and..."
and he would direct people to some anti-Semitic or nazi websites or
such like...

He's got some intriguing musical examples on his site, although I
don't see enough there to really call him a "composer..." But, he
does have an interesting musical sense in a few of the examples.

But the way he came on the list indicates he has a total lack of
social skills and I question his "social intelligence" if there is
such a thing.

I remember when I first started on the Tuning List, all I did was ask
questions... Maybe not such a totally dumb thing, in retrospect...

J. Pehrson

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

Hi Joseph!
While i feel it is always dangerous to label people as Anti-Semites, i
doubt anyone would actually come out and say they are. That he says that
Jews are obnoxious is a new one on me ( i think he was referrring to New
Yorkers, just joking). The Prodocol (well that was new to me too) seems not
something one goes around supporting unless they think it is valid. Even if
it could be traced to some Jewish group, that it would involve ALL Jews is
absurd unless they are passed at at every synagogue. It would like taking
some radical Islamic cult or proclaimation represents a greater Islamic
Plot. Although David Emory (for the record) thinks many of them are
connected to the former Nazis in a fifth reich. The documents reads like it
was written by a non religous person as it lacks any religious passion in it
so i doubt it can be traced to A jewish elite. Where are the real jewish
referances? Although it is claimed to be a fake by others is never enough
for me as those referance on the internet seemed to be all self contained
referances. Each quoting the others but believe it cause of what i state
above. It is really impossible to really conclude what is in Peter's head,
but appears to be highly questionable.

Joseph Pehrson wrote:

> So, it appears that Peter Wakefield Sault has made some boarderline
> anti-Semitic remarks on a bizarro website. (I guess he's a "semi-anti-
> Semite...")
>
> However, if he were truly a virulent anti-Semite, why would he be
> objecting so and threatening people who called him that? I don't get
> it.
>
> Why wouldn't he just say: "Well, that's *me* buddy-o, and if you
> want to know the *real* truth, etc., etc. go to this website and..."
> and he would direct people to some anti-Semitic or nazi websites or
> such like...
>
> ??
>
> He's got some intriguing musical examples on his site, although I
> don't see enough there to really call him a "composer..." But, he
> does have an interesting musical sense in a few of the examples.
>
> But the way he came on the list indicates he has a total lack of
> social skills and I question his "social intelligence" if there is
> such a thing.
>
> I remember when I first started on the Tuning List, all I did was ask
> questions... Maybe not such a totally dumb thing, in retrospect...
>
> J. Pehrson
>
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

🔗Dante Rosati <dante@...>

> Why wouldn't he just say: "Well, that's *me* buddy-o, and if you
> want to know the *real* truth, etc., etc. go to this website and..."
> and he would direct people to some anti-Semitic or nazi websites or
> such like...

Obviously he is a mealy-mouthed coward as well.

re: websites, take a closer look at the site he recommended as a "unbiased"
appraisal of the Protocols:

http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/toolkit.html

Although I have not read it, it appears the standard scholarly work on the
history of the Protocols is "Warrant For Genocide" by Norman Cohn. Notice
how Cohn is described on this "unbaised" page:

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This is how Norman Cohn is described in Who's Who in World Jewry, Pitman
Publishing Co., New York 1972:

"COHN, Norman, Eng, author, educator; b. London Eng, Jan 12, 1915; s.August
and Daisy (Reimer); MA, Christ Church Sch, Oxford, 1939; DLitt Glasgow; m.
Vera Broido, Sep 3 1941; c, Nik. Professorial F, U of Sussex since 1963;
found dir, Cen for Research in Collective Psychopath, since 1963; prof, U
Durham, 1960-63; F, Cen for Advanced Study in Behavioral Scis, Stanford,
1966. Capt, Brit Army, 1939-46. Author: The Pursuit of the Millennium 1957,
rev ed 1970; Warrant for Genocide, 1970; trans: Goid Khan and Other Siberian
Legends; contbr to profsl jours. Mem Athenaeum. Recipient, Wolf-Anisfield
Prize for Race Relations, 1968 Hobbies: walking, travel. Home: 61 New End,
London NW3, Eng. Office: 3 Henrietta St, London WC2, Eng."

Only a Zionist of high rank would get such a writeup. Since Cohn is such a
loyal Zionist, he can hardly be a neutral, unbiased, observer. Indeed, the
title of his book Warrant For Genocide, is meant to make the Protocols
itself - the book - responsible for Auschwitz. What next - book burning?
Book-banning? The Suppression of deviant views? Is this the mark of
Intellect, of Reason? Or of Religion, of Propaganda? In Warrant For Genocide
Cohn skirts the main issue: the pages of the Protocols which deal with
finance, and seem to provide a manual on the operation of the Capitalist
System. This website finally gives me the chance to display the wealth of
evidence for my case.

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🔗Peter Wakefield Sault <sault@...>

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...>
wrote:

> He's got some intriguing musical examples on his site, although I
> don't see enough there to really call him a "composer..."
>
> J. Pehrson

Are we to be permitted to hear some of your offerings to the world,
Mr. Pehrson?

And to ensure a 'level playing field' in any ensuing discussion, I
think you should let us all know your real name, home address and
telephone number.

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Wakefield Sault" <sault@c...> wrote:
> Are we to be permitted to hear some of your offerings to the world,
> Mr. Pehrson?

Joe has been an active participant on many of these lists, and active in not only composing but garnering performances. Until recently, he had an entire page of musical excerpts on mp3.com, but that service has been bought out and shut down by another company.

However, if you are genuinely interesting in hearing his music (which I suggest), you should do a search in the archives of tuning - within the last couple of weeks he posted a new site that his music has migrated to.

The tuning community that has sprung from the main tuning list has generated quite a few active composers, and I'm sure if you either ask or do some searching you'll find quite a few with either streamable or downloadable music to listen to.

Jon

🔗Dante Rosati <dante@...>

Aha! The infamous Sault shows up in Metatuning! Well, Sir, if you wish to
discuss the issues that no doubt you have read the posts on here- let us
begin!

1) Do you honestly believe that the so-called Protocols of the Elders of
Zion is a genuine document that pertains to some kind of world-wide "Jewish
Conspiracy" to take over same?

2) Since you are willing to go on record on the internet saying "I detest
many Jews, meaning simply that I do not wish to socialize with them, for the
simple reason that they are deliberately obnoxious", would it be fair to
assume that the answer to Kalle's original question is "yes"?

3) Do you belive the newly located, buried henge stones at Avebury should be
raised and put in place again?

your sincerely,

"Dante Rosati"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Wakefield Sault [mailto:sault@...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:56 AM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [metatuning] The 'courageous' Dante Rosati
>
>
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati" <dante@i...> wrote:
> >
> > Obviously he is a mealy-mouthed coward as well.
> >
>
> What is your real name, home address and telephone number? Since you
> have mine, it is only fair that I have yours before we begin. Or do
> you only sling your cheap invective from behind your momma's skirt?
>
> PWS.
>
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🔗Peter Wakefield Sault <sault@...>

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Wakefield Sault"

/metatuning/topicId_6424.html#6431

<sault@c...> wrote:
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...>
> wrote:
>
> > He's got some intriguing musical examples on his site, although I
> > don't see enough there to really call him a "composer..."
> >
> > J. Pehrson
>
> Are we to be permitted to hear some of your offerings to the world,
> Mr. Pehrson?
>
> And to ensure a 'level playing field' in any ensuing discussion, I
> think you should let us all know your real name, home address and
> telephone number.

***My music has moved to SoundClick:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/josephpehrsonmusic.htm

I welcome any comments you care to make and if you have more music
than is posted on your site, my apologies...

You have my name, but you don't need my address presently and,
besides, my apartment building is heavily guarded...

J. Pehrson

🔗Peter Wakefield Sault <sault@...>

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...>
wrote:
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Wakefield Sault"
>
> /metatuning/topicId_6424.html#6431
>
> <sault@c...> wrote:
> > --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson"
<jpehrson@r...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > He's got some intriguing musical examples on his site, although
I
> > > don't see enough there to really call him a "composer..."
> > >
> > > J. Pehrson
> >
> > Are we to be permitted to hear some of your offerings to the
world,
> > Mr. Pehrson?
> >
> > And to ensure a 'level playing field' in any ensuing discussion,
I
> > think you should let us all know your real name, home address and
> > telephone number.
>
>
> ***My music has moved to SoundClick:
>
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/josephpehrsonmusic.htm
>
> I welcome any comments you care to make and if you have more music
> than is posted on your site, my apologies...

The only comment that I can make for the moment is that 'MPEG SHOUT'
reports "error resolving host" for all your pieces so I am presently
unable to listen. If you have any suggestions as to how I could get
around that please let me know. As for myself, I have a couple of
thousand hours of recordings. I don't think my ISP would be very
happy about my uploading all of that. He has already been kind enough
to nearly double my storage space allocation without extra charge
just so I could get what little is there online.

>
> You have my name, but you don't need my address presently and,
> besides, my apartment building is heavily guarded...

I'm not about to swim the Atlantic just to come knocking on your
door. And even were I to do that I eschew physical violence except as
a last resort in self-defence - so it would not be a rerun of Assault
on Precinct 13. You can relax, I assure you. My point was only that
*my* whereabouts are freely available to the whole world.

>
> J. Pehrson

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Wakefield Sault"

/metatuning/topicId_6424.html#6480

> >
> > ***My music has moved to SoundClick:
> >
> > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/josephpehrsonmusic.htm
> >
> > I welcome any comments you care to make and if you have more
music than is posted on your site, my apologies...
>
>
> The only comment that I can make for the moment is that 'MPEG
SHOUT' reports "error resolving host" for all your pieces so I am
presently
> unable to listen. If you have any suggestions as to how I could get
> around that please let me know.

***Hello Peter,

Did you try *downloading* the files?? They are all there free for
the asking... That should work, even if you can't *stream* them.
I'd be surprised if you can't access the page at all; it seems you
already have...

As for myself, I have a couple of
> thousand hours of recordings. I don't think my ISP would be very
> happy about my uploading all of that. He has already been kind
enough
> to nearly double my storage space allocation without extra charge
> just so I could get what little is there online.
>

***Oh... well, you see I had no idea you were a "serious" composer,
and how would I know?? There is no list of works on your site, so my
apologies. But, on the other hand, you seem involved in a lot of
different activities, so I had no idea you were so sensitive on the
idea of being a composer...

I would suggest, by the way, a free service such as "SoundClick"
where you can upload your stuff with unlimited space, since most ISPs
have very little room for that in personal accounts...

>
> >
> > You have my name, but you don't need my address presently and,
> > besides, my apartment building is heavily guarded...
>
>
> I'm not about to swim the Atlantic just to come knocking on your
> door. And even were I to do that I eschew physical violence except
as
> a last resort in self-defence - so it would not be a rerun of
Assault
> on Precinct 13. You can relax, I assure you. My point was only that
> *my* whereabouts are freely available to the whole world.
>

***Well I didn't even know if your address was on your page. I
think, Peter, we *all* need to relax.

My message that I posted here was generally a *favorable* one, which
I think was moderately courageous for me to do given that many people
felt your views "controversial..."

And the "Ass-Sault" could be taken just as a "clever" take on the
word "assault." Yes, you could read a double meaning, but you did
your best to take it in absolutely the most negative light...

Joseph