Rzewski's amazing piece

Has everybody heard Frederic Rzewski's piano work _The People
United..._??

Incredible piece and amazing variation technique. It's not in an
alternate tuning, but it doesn't need it. Spellbinding.

J. Pehrson

I even saw Ursala Oppens do it live. her original recording still the best.

Joseph Pehrson wrote:

> Has everybody heard Frederic Rzewski's piano work _The People
> United..._??
>
> Incredible piece and amazing variation technique. It's not in an
> alternate tuning, but it doesn't need it. Spellbinding.
>
> J. Pehrson
>
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--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
> Has everybody heard Frederic Rzewski's piano work _The People
> United..._??

Oh, my god Joe, you're not just *now* discovering Rzewski? :) I've thought that 'People' could almost be a course in the path of musical thought in the last 100 years - certainly one of the great theme and variations of all time!

Did you hear it live, or on recording? I've got Marc-Andre Hamelin playing it, but I'd give my left nut to hear Rzewski play it himself - he is a ferocious and magnificent player. There was recently coverage of his solo recital in the New Yorker, IIRC.

Boy, one of the great ones, Rzewski, and committed to social issues as well. I don't give a flying ... if this boy doesn't use microtones.

Cheers,
Jon

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> I even saw Ursala Oppens do it live. her original recording still the best.

I'll bet she tears it up; I'm gonna look for that recording as well!

Cheers,
Jon

Jon- looks like you can keep your left nut, but you may have to fork over
$46 (not too bad for 7 CDs actually):

http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=75597962321

Dante

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Szanto [mailto:JSZANTO@...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:44 AM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [metatuning] Re: Rzewski's amazing piece
>
>
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
> > Has everybody heard Frederic Rzewski's piano work _The People
> > United..._??
>
> Oh, my god Joe, you're not just *now* discovering Rzewski? :)
> I've thought that 'People' could almost be a course in the path
> of musical thought in the last 100 years - certainly one of the
> great theme and variations of all time!
>
> Did you hear it live, or on recording? I've got Marc-Andre
> Hamelin playing it, but I'd give my left nut to hear Rzewski play
> it himself - he is a ferocious and magnificent player. There was
> recently coverage of his solo recital in the New Yorker, IIRC.
>
> Boy, one of the great ones, Rzewski, and committed to social
> issues as well. I don't give a flying ... if this boy doesn't use
> microtones.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
>
>
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--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati" <dante.interport@r...> wrote:
> Jon- looks like you can keep your left nut, but you may have to fork over
> $46 (not too bad for 7 CDs actually):

Excellent, Dante - I can continue to operate in stereo testosterony! Hell, why else do I do summer pops programs (this evening: a night on Broadway...) but to reward myself with things like this. Gad, I'm running up to my birthday shortly, and the sweet wife last year got me the box set of Conlan Nancarrow complete player piano music. Some times it just all works out...

Cheers,
Jon

good thing you are not a merzbow fan, cause then she would have to shell out for the 100 CD set

Jon Szanto wrote:

> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati" <dante.interport@r...> wrote:
> > Jon- looks like you can keep your left nut, but you may have to fork over
> > $46 (not too bad for 7 CDs actually):
>
> Excellent, Dante - I can continue to operate in stereo testosterony! Hell, why else do I do summer pops programs (this evening: a night on Broadway...) but to reward myself with things like this. Gad, I'm running up to my birthday shortly, and the sweet wife last year got me the box set of Conlan Nancarrow complete player piano music. Some times it just all works out...
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
>

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The Wandering Medicine Show
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--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> good thing you are not a merzbow fan, cause then she would have to shell out for the 100 CD set

I've thought about releasing my entire catalog of works/performances on an exclusive 250 CD Box Set, with only a couple minutes on each cd. And the sad part is that if someone did this, someone would probably buy it!

Cheers,
Jon

Hence Merzbow , but it is not even his collected works, all original cuts for this set.
It makes me realize that as much as those of us into tuning do not have a definite style, as a whole, i have noticed there not much interest in the so-called 'noise' thing in these parts. al least none of us seem to be
putting such tthings out

Jon Szanto wrote:

> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> > good thing you are not a merzbow fan, cause then she would have to shell out for the 100 CD set
>
> I've thought about releasing my entire catalog of works/performances on an exclusive 250 CD Box Set, with only a couple minutes on each cd. And the sad part is that if someone did this, someone would probably buy it!
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
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--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> It makes me realize that as much as those of us into tuning do not have a definite style, as a whole

But, that is good, right? I'm glad YOU don't sound like other people!

> i have noticed there not much interest in the so-called 'noise' thing in these parts. al least none of us seem to be
> putting such tthings out

Give me a couple months, Kraig: I just got a new computer on eBay to help me do some of the music/sound tasks I've been working towards, and I'm aiming to attempt some live shows as well, incorporating composed sound/music pieces and live playing.

We'll see - life hasn't been too kind the last couple of years to my ideas of free time for my artistic side, but... we'll see.

Cheers,
Jon

> Has everybody heard Frederic Rzewski's piano work _The People
> United..._??
>
> Incredible piece and amazing variation technique.

Totally agree. My friend Missy, then a composition student
at BU, turned me on to it in 1999.

Also she introduced me to Berio. Haven't yet decided what
I think of his stuff.

-Carl

kraig grady wrote:
> Hence Merzbow , but it is not even his collected works, all original cuts for this set.
> It makes me realize that as much as those of us into tuning do not have a definite style, as a whole, i have noticed there not much interest in the so-called 'noise' thing in these parts. al least none of us seem to be
> putting such tthings out

WTF? I've been compared to Merzbow on two separate occasions, not that I listen to much of his stuff. Mats did some really austere noise works -- at least, I think they were supposed to sound like that and it wasn't the MP3 player malfunctioning ;)

Graham

Sorry Graham -somehow had never heard any of it, but i knew there had to be a few. Actually Brink McBride too

Graham Breed wrote:

> kraig grady wrote:
> > Hence Merzbow , but it is not even his collected works, all original cuts for this set.
> > It makes me realize that as much as those of us into tuning do not have a definite style, as a whole, i have noticed there not much interest in the so-called 'noise' thing in these parts. al least none of us seem to be
> > putting such tthings out
>
> WTF? I've been compared to Merzbow on two separate occasions, not that
> I listen to much of his stuff. Mats did some really austere noise works
> -- at least, I think they were supposed to sound like that and it wasn't
> the MP3 player malfunctioning ;)
>
> Graham
>
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Brink has done some stuff that i think is really
incredible, especially his pieces in phi-based tuning.

he seems to be pretty much living in San Diego
these days, and in fact is much more a part of
the physical Sonic Arts than i have been for at
least a year. (i'm still in charge of the virtual)
wish i could find the time to get over there and
do some improvising with he and Jonathan.

(Bill Wesley is often a part of the goings-on as well,
and i really the direction *his* work has taken.)

... but guess what? -- at this point i'm talking
entirely about microtonal music, so this belongs on
the regular tuning list, where i've also sent a copy.

-monz

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kraig grady [mailto:kraiggrady@...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:24 AM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [metatuning] Re: Rzewski's amazing piece
>
>
> Sorry Graham -somehow had never heard any of it, but i knew
> there had to be a few. Actually Brink McBride too
>
> Graham Breed wrote:
>
> > kraig grady wrote:
> > > Hence Merzbow , but it is not even his collected works,
> all original cuts for this set.
> > > It makes me realize that as much as those of us into
> tuning do not have a definite style, as a whole, i have
> noticed there not much interest in the so-called 'noise'
> thing in these parts. al least none of us seem to be
> > > putting such tthings out
> >
> > WTF? I've been compared to Merzbow on two separate
> occasions, not that
> > I listen to much of his stuff. Mats did some really
> austere noise works
> > -- at least, I think they were supposed to sound like that
> and it wasn't
> > the MP3 player malfunctioning ;)
> >
> > Graham

Brink stuff is always a welcome bargage of irreverent humor

monz@... wrote:

> Brink has done some stuff that i think is really
> incredible, especially his pieces in phi-based tuning.
>
> he seems to be pretty much living in San Diego
> these days, and in fact is much more a part of
> the physical Sonic Arts than i have been for at
> least a year. (i'm still in charge of the virtual)
> wish i could find the time to get over there and
> do some improvising with he and Jonathan.
>
> (Bill Wesley is often a part of the goings-on as well,
> and i really the direction *his* work has taken.)
>
> ... but guess what? -- at this point i'm talking
> entirely about microtonal music, so this belongs on
> the regular tuning list, where i've also sent a copy.
>
> -monz
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kraig grady [mailto:kraiggrady@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:24 AM
> > To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [metatuning] Re: Rzewski's amazing piece
> >
> >
> > Sorry Graham -somehow had never heard any of it, but i knew
> > there had to be a few. Actually Brink McBride too
> >
> > Graham Breed wrote:
> >
> > > kraig grady wrote:
> > > > Hence Merzbow , but it is not even his collected works,
> > all original cuts for this set.
> > > > It makes me realize that as much as those of us into
> > tuning do not have a definite style, as a whole, i have
> > noticed there not much interest in the so-called 'noise'
> > thing in these parts. al least none of us seem to be
> > > > putting such tthings out
> > >
> > > WTF? I've been compared to Merzbow on two separate
> > occasions, not that
> > > I listen to much of his stuff. Mats did some really
> > austere noise works
> > > -- at least, I think they were supposed to sound like that
> > and it wasn't
> > > the MP3 player malfunctioning ;)
> > >
> > > Graham
>
>
>
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

> -----Original Message-----
> From: monz@... [mailto:monz@...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:50 PM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com; tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Brink (was: [metatuning] Re: Rzewski's amazing piece)
>
>
> Brink has done some stuff that i think is really
> incredible, especially his pieces in phi-based tuning.
>
> he seems to be pretty much living in San Diego
> these days, and in fact is much more a part of
> the physical Sonic Arts than i have been for at
> least a year. (i'm still in charge of the virtual)
> wish i could find the time to get over there and
> do some improvising with he and Jonathan.
>
> (Bill Wesley is often a part of the goings-on as well,
> and i really the direction *his* work has taken.)

oops ... meant to say: "i really LIKE the direction
*his* work has taken".

-monz

I could tell that by the microtonal inflections in your voice:)

monz@... wrote:

>
>
> oops ... meant to say: "i really LIKE the direction
> *his* work has taken".
>
> -monz
>
>
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Szanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_5242.html#5244

> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...>
wrote:
> > Has everybody heard Frederic Rzewski's piano work _The People
> > United..._??
>
> Oh, my god Joe, you're not just *now* discovering Rzewski? :) I've
thought that 'People' could almost be a course in the path of musical
thought in the last 100 years - certainly one of the great theme and
variations of all time!
>

***Hi Jon,

Yes, tis a shame, but I had never heard the piece!

> Did you hear it live, or on recording? I've got Marc-Andre Hamelin
playing it,

***That's the one I got from Amazon, but I hear Kathy Supove plays
the work as well... I'd like to hear her version. It's a monster
piano piece, of course...

but I'd give my left nut to hear Rzewski play it himself - he is a
ferocious and magnificent player. There was recently coverage of his
solo recital in the New Yorker, IIRC.
>
> Boy, one of the great ones, Rzewski, and committed to social issues
as well. I don't give a flying ... if this boy doesn't use microtones.
>

***Right, we're on the same page there. Congrats to Kraig Grady for
hearing the original Oppens version...

Greetings to all from Minnesota, where the weather is great at the
moment. (Nice lakes, etc., etc.)

JP

I see the CD from time to time so i know it is available

Joseph Pehrson wrote:

>
> >
>
> ***Right, we're on the same page there. Congrats to Kraig Grady for
> hearing the original Oppens version...
>
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST