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Since I was mentioned by name in X.J. Scott's recent post
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Netanyahu is unfortunately correct and if the US were to do nothing
about this
terrorist attack or withdraw its influence from the Near East, a nuclear
exchange
between Israel and various Moslem states would be inevitable as would
be continued
terrorism on the US homeland. The US as Israel's protector and chief
financeer
would continue to be attacked, and hundreds of millions of people,
mostly Moslem,
would then have to die. That is why in addition to united worldwide
military and police
action against terrorism, there must also be a political settlement of
the
Palestinian question.

If the West can stomach the likes of Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon and
ignore the Stern Gang's terrorism in Palestine, the bombing of the King
David Hotel,
the murder of the UN High Commissioner Count Bernadotte, the attack on
the USS Liberty, the Shatila refugee camp massacres, etc., it and
Israel can live
with a Palestinian state under Arafat which includes the land under the
illegal
Israeli settlements and at least a part of East Jerusalem. If the
ultra-orthodox
religious parties threaten civil war or their own brand of terrorism,
they'll have
to dealt with by Israel. These fanatics are scarcely more sympathetic to
western
culture than many muslims; in any case, the US can no longer be afford
to be
bound by other people's religious beliefs and behaviors.

A large, well-armed UN garrison to keep both sides apart and to prevent
Palestinian
territory being used by external muslim armies or terrorist groups will
be necesary
for at least a generation and must be removable only by request from
both Israel and
Palestine and with the unanimous consent of the Security Council. The
1967 War
was largely caused because of the abrupt removal of an earlier force by
the then
Secretary General of the UN, U Thant, IIRC.

The results won't solve all of America's problems with the Moslem world
because many Palestinians and their radical allies want the complete
annihilation
of Israel, but they may accept its existence because the alternative is
genocide.
Also, such a settlement would strengthen the more moderate Islamic
governments
and just might make the eradication of muslim terrorism possible
without a
nuclear exchange, though it may still come to that eventually if those
who want
the destruction of democratic civilization cannot be otherwise contained
and
neutralized by political and limited military means.

>When I was a student at UCSD, nearly all of the
>students who were studying nuclear physics were
>from the middle-east or China and here on student
>visas.

I wasn't formally associated with UCSD when Jeff was a student,
and I only met him at a concert a few years ago. I must say that I
am rather surprised by his present attitudes and statements, but we're
all
very stressed and hyperemotional these days. I haven't slept all week
and
have been much too distracted to do any intellectual work. I think we
in the
xenharmonic community need to give each other a bit more tolerance and
understanding than usual.

That most science, math, and engineering students are foreign born is a very
common pattern in US universities. The reasons are these: American
High School culture often ostracizes and even persecutes students who
are scholars rather than athletes, socialites, or clothes horses. While
very few
become psychotic enough to shoot up their schools, many are emotionally
scarred
and become embittered, angry and withdrawn as young adults.

Many of the latter lose their idealism and turn away from science and
math entirely.
Many decide just to get rich and become lawyers and doctors, both of
which
professions are lucrative and parasitic. The more doctors in a
community, the higher
the cost of medical care as they don't compete, but set income goals
and raise prices
to meet them. When they can't make enough, they leave, and we are
seeing an exodus of
physicians from California right now.

I need say little about lawyers, save that I am convinced that much
legislation is
written by politicians (who are mostly failed attorneys) to pay back
their campaign
contributors and to enrich their once and future law partners. Even if
one is ethical
and intellectually honest before law school, one readily learns greed,
obfuscation,
misdirection, and evasion on the job, but I digress.

Another reason for so few Americans and so many foreign students is that
science education in the US is abyssmal. Too often it consists merely of
learning isolated facts without teaching the methods of science and the
unifying evolutionary philosophy which informs it. It's dull and I
don't blame
many students for being bored and turned-off.

Particularly poorly taught are techniques of critical thinking. For
these reasons,
we are still struggling to get textbook writers to admit that evolution
is not
only a fact of nature, but the one unifying concept underlying all
modern biology
and consistent with the physical sciences. It is no wonder that so many Americans
believe in new age and pseudoscientic ideas and avoid science courses.
Without
the foreign students who stay in the US, I doubt our industry or
military could compete
with Europe and Asia.

Finally, I think many American students are lazy and easily distracted
by popular
culture. The same is true for many foreign students as well, but these
don't
apply or get accepted to American colleges and graduate schools. We're
getting
only their elite students, but our colleges are trying to educate
American students
with a much wider range of ability and ambition. Hence, one sees mostly foreigners
in difficult classes.

>Dr. Chalmers will be able to speak to the issue
>of the large number of students from these countries
>who learn techniques for designing biological
>weapons in UCSD's graduate biosciences programs.

The techniques of genetic engineering are not difficult to learn and the
necesary information is in the open literature. Materials and equipment
are commercially available. One doesn't need to go to UCSD to become
a bioterrorist or even an ecological vandal. Fortunately, it's not
exactly trivial to
generate a useful weapon as was discovered by the Japanese, though even
an imperfect one can cause a lot of injury and fear.

As it turned out, the Aum Shinrikyo cultists were amateurish and failed
to make
pure enough SARIN or use a sufficiently virulent strain of Anthrax. I am
appalled
that the Japanese government has not suppressed this group and jailed or
executed its leaders. I presume it is because too many of them are
connected
too closely to leading politicians or their contributors. This is
another example of
an irrational cult spreading its venomous beliefs among people unable or unwilling
to think scientifically, though educated just enough to apply the
results of
scientific discovery and technological development.

>Anyway, this is not about race or nationality
>but I msut say that it is not a coincidence and
>we are shortly going to bear the fruits of the
>money lusts of the satanist Richard Atkinson
>and the truly truly evil things I saw some of
>the administration and staff at UCSD involved
>in. I doubt that this was an exception based
>on the fanaticism and psychotic lies that I
>continue to be repulsed by as tnhe spew forth
>from the vile feedholes of the liars and murderers
>in American Academia.

I agree that affirmative action programs are immoral, unethical and
unconstitutional in principal, but I also think that most of them were
well-intentioned. Yeah, I know the road to Hell is paved with good intentions
and no good deed goes unpunished, but I think AA was a forgiveable
lapse and one that has now been corrected legally.

I'd like to see some documentation of the other charges. I was
a graduate student when Herbert York was chancellor and didn't know
Atkinson, though he may have been chancellor when I returned to San Diego
after my father died of cancer and Scripps hospitals malpractice in
1992.
I saw some pretty unethical and nasty things when I was on the faculty
of
Baylor College of Medicine, but literal Satanism at UCSD (Your Tax
Dollars
at Work!) would surprise even me.

>And to those of you who have betrayed
>the world and civilization through your
>deals with Satan the deciever

What precisely are you talking about?

--John

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