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🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...> <jpehrson@...>

12/9/2002 8:37:02 AM

Mr. Kerry, who turns 59 on Wednesday, is surely the only senator
whose office displays a photograph of him posing with John Lennon at
an antiwar demonstration at the New York Public Library and another
of him standing in military fatigues in the Mekong Delta.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/09/politics/campaigns/09KERR.html

J. Pehrson

🔗wallyesterpaulrus <wallyesterpaulrus@...> <wallyesterpaulrus@...>

12/9/2002 3:10:13 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@r...>"
<jpehrson@r...> wrote:
> Mr. Kerry, who turns 59 on Wednesday, is surely the only senator
> whose office displays a photograph of him posing with John Lennon
at
> an antiwar demonstration at the New York Public Library and another
> of him standing in military fatigues in the Mekong Delta.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/09/politics/campaigns/09KERR.html
>
> J. Pehrson

if i recall correctly, this is the understatement of the year:

"He has a lot of money, too. Beyond an unused $3.1 million in his
Senate campaign account, which his aides say could be used for a
presidential campaign, he is married to Teresa Heinz, the wealthy
widow of Senator John Heinz, an heir to the Heinz food fortune."

as i recall, kerry is one of the 10-20 richest people in
massachusetts, worth some $500 million!

hmm . . . is this "power for the people"?

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...> <jpehrson@...>

12/9/2002 7:18:21 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "wallyesterpaulrus

/metatuning/topicId_3711.html#3712

<wallyesterpaulrus@y...>" <wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@r...>"
> <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
> > Mr. Kerry, who turns 59 on Wednesday, is surely the only senator
> > whose office displays a photograph of him posing with John Lennon
> at
> > an antiwar demonstration at the New York Public Library and
another
> > of him standing in military fatigues in the Mekong Delta.
> >
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/09/politics/campaigns/09KERR.html
> >
> > J. Pehrson
>
> if i recall correctly, this is the understatement of the year:
>
> "He has a lot of money, too. Beyond an unused $3.1 million in his
> Senate campaign account, which his aides say could be used for a
> presidential campaign, he is married to Teresa Heinz, the wealthy
> widow of Senator John Heinz, an heir to the Heinz food fortune."
>
> as i recall, kerry is one of the 10-20 richest people in
> massachusetts, worth some $500 million!
>
> hmm . . . is this "power for the people"?

****Seems to be a trend in politics on the overall, doesn't it?
Smart and talented people who don't have the $$ don't even get to
first base in this game, so it appears to me...

Joseph

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

12/9/2002 9:46:27 PM

You have to be able to afford millions on a job that pays a fraction of it!

"Joseph Pehrson " wrote:

>
>
> ****Seems to be a trend in politics on the overall, doesn't it?
> Smart and talented people who don't have the $$ don't even get to
> first base in this game, so it appears to me...
>
> Joseph
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🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...> <jpehrson@...>

12/10/2002 12:09:21 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>

/metatuning/topicId_3711.html#3714

wrote:
> You have to be able to afford millions on a job that pays a
fraction of it!
>

***Well, that's a good point, so it probably attests to the
seriousness of the "public service" aspect of it... Still, it seems
kind of unfortunate that $ is the true "barrier to entry..."

J. Pehrson

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

12/10/2002 8:00:08 PM

JP- When the country was founded, voting was limited to property owners,
not we can do that. Someday we will be able to run for office in a serious
way.

"Joseph Pehrson " wrote:

> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
>
> /metatuning/topicId_3711.html#3714
>
> wrote:
> > You have to be able to afford millions on a job that pays a
> fraction of it!
> >
>
> ***Well, that's a good point, so it probably attests to the
> seriousness of the "public service" aspect of it... Still, it seems
> kind of unfortunate that $ is the true "barrier to entry..."
>
> J. Pehrson
>

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🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

10/21/2005 6:29:04 PM

The percentage of "Caesarian births", as they are now called,
is routinely 25% across the country. The 18% number at
Alta Bates (our hospital) is considered very low. It's been
steadily rising since the '70s, apparently. Fear of litigation,
throughput constraints in hospital wards, and an increased use
of pain-relief interventions are all possible explanations.
And a small but not insignificant contribution comes from
"planned Caesarian births", where the mother schedules a
c-section rather than waiting for labor... increasingly popular,
incredibly. I shudder to think of the consequences for a
generation born this way. Respiratory problems are a well-known
complication of c-sections, and important aspects of mother-baby
bonding are tied to "vaginal birth", as it is now called, and
these are only the most obvious considerations.

-Carl

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

10/21/2005 8:17:27 PM

On Friday 21 October 2005 8:29 pm, Carl Lumma wrote:
> The percentage of "Caesarian births", as they are now called,
> is routinely 25% across the country. The 18% number at
> Alta Bates (our hospital) is considered very low. It's been
> steadily rising since the '70s, apparently. Fear of litigation,
> throughput constraints in hospital wards, and an increased use
> of pain-relief interventions are all possible explanations.
> And a small but not insignificant contribution comes from
> "planned Caesarian births", where the mother schedules a
> c-section rather than waiting for labor... increasingly popular,
> incredibly. I shudder to think of the consequences for a
> generation born this way. Respiratory problems are a well-known
> complication of c-sections, and important aspects of mother-baby
> bonding are tied to "vaginal birth", as it is now called, and
> these are only the most obvious considerations.

Yes, doctors are not the best bet in delivery of babies. which is why lorna
and i are doing a midwife water-birth.

BTW, everyone, i'm going to be a daddy in late april/early may. i waited to
announce it to the world because i wanted to get over the 'miscarry' hump of
3 months.

-aaron.

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

10/21/2005 9:46:58 PM

Congratulations!!!!!!
i say the harmonic series being the best thing to be greeted with.
worked with mine :)

Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:

>On Friday 21 October 2005 8:29 pm, Carl Lumma wrote:
> >
>>The percentage of "Caesarian births", as they are now called,
>>is routinely 25% across the country. The 18% number at
>>Alta Bates (our hospital) is considered very low. It's been
>>steadily rising since the '70s, apparently. Fear of litigation,
>>throughput constraints in hospital wards, and an increased use
>>of pain-relief interventions are all possible explanations.
>>And a small but not insignificant contribution comes from
>>"planned Caesarian births", where the mother schedules a
>>c-section rather than waiting for labor... increasingly popular,
>>incredibly. I shudder to think of the consequences for a
>>generation born this way. Respiratory problems are a well-known
>>complication of c-sections, and important aspects of mother-baby
>>bonding are tied to "vaginal birth", as it is now called, and
>>these are only the most obvious considerations.
>> >>
>
>Yes, doctors are not the best bet in delivery of babies. which is why lorna >and i are doing a midwife water-birth.
>
>BTW, everyone, i'm going to be a daddy in late april/early may. i waited to >announce it to the world because i wanted to get over the 'miscarry' hump of >3 months.
>
>-aaron.
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🔗Jon Szanto <jszanto@...>

10/21/2005 11:39:12 PM

Aaron,

Very good news - stay well (all [at least] three of you) and let us
know how it is going!

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

10/22/2005 12:13:07 AM

> The percentage of "Caesarian births", as they are now called,
> is routinely 25% across the country. The 18% number at
> Alta Bates (our hospital) is considered very low. It's been
> steadily rising since the '70s, apparently. Fear of litigation,
> throughput constraints in hospital wards, and an increased use
> of pain-relief interventions are all possible explanations.

...and older mothers.

-Carl