Muslim cooperation??

Dunno. Maybe I've been reading the news wrong or I have my head up
my ass (possibly), but I thought there was quite a bit of cooperation
between various Muslim factions in the U.S. with snaring al Qaeda.
The translation services, in particular, are especially valued and
valuable...so I'm reading.

In fact, I've been rather surprised by the grudging cooperation of
states such as Egypt and Turkey (which is now "secular Muslim"
whatever that is) and even Pakistan and Iran, surprisingly enough, to
track down and arrest some of these killers...

J. Pehrson

> head up my ass

I don't think this of you - my comment about this was in the context of not
seeing a connection between all this terror activity. The common thread is
that there is an Islamic connection.

I guess I'm not entirely clear on where people stand. It sounds to me like
there are people who are denying that Muslims are commiting terror acts and
hate crimes, and denying that Muslims have been behind the recent terror
attacks.

Such denials do not seem reasonable to me.

And if there are not such denials, I'm not sure what the big argument is.

- J

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> > head up my ass
>
> I don't think this of you - my comment about this was in the
context of not
> seeing a connection between all this terror activity. The common
thread is
> that there is an Islamic connection.
>
> I guess I'm not entirely clear on where people stand. It sounds to
me like
> there are people who are denying that Muslims are commiting terror
acts and
> hate crimes, and denying that Muslims have been behind the recent
terror
> attacks.
>
> Such denials do not seem reasonable to me.
>
> And if there are not such denials, I'm not sure what the big
argument is.
>
> - J

***Hi Jeff,

Actually, I just think maybe people don't believe it's entirely so
*monolithic* as far as Muslim behavior is concerned... at least I can
speak for myself...

It will be interesting to watch Turkey (after all, it's almost
Thanksgiving! :) supposedly develop a "secular" Muslim society.
Interesting...

Joe

--- In metatuning@y..., "X. J. Scott" <xjscott@e...> wrote:
>
> > head up my ass
>
> I don't think this of you - my comment about this was in the
context of not
> seeing a connection between all this terror activity. The common
thread is
> that there is an Islamic connection.
>
> I guess I'm not entirely clear on where people stand. It sounds to
me like
> there are people who are denying that Muslims are commiting terror
acts and
> hate crimes, and denying that Muslims have been behind the recent
terror
> attacks.
>
> Such denials do not seem reasonable to me.
>
> And if there are not such denials, I'm not sure what the big
argument is.
>
> - J

speaking for myself, since you enraged me by calling powell and bush
traitors because they're apparently too liberal for you:

the argument is that you cannot treat all people who share some
characteristic as "the enemy", even if 80% (pulling this out of the
air) of them wish you ill. the other 20% still add up to roughly the
population of the united states, and we would do better to open our
arms and hearts to this 20%, and show the world what freedom and
openness are really about, than to enrage them to the point where the
80% figure can do nothing but grow.