FW: [Yestroopers] Firebird Suite

I thought I'd forward this, just because I was amazed to learn how expensive
it would be to have this Stravinsky piece performed by an orchestra . . .
and I love the piece in question . . .

-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl [mailto:boaters@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:37 AM
To: Yestroopers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Yestroopers] Firebird Suite

We have all grown to love this piece at the beginnings of past Yes
Shows, and regrettably this tour, they are not opening with this. In
a review I read on YesNet, this reviewer has the answer the questions
of why they are not using this and playing a "Yesymphonic Overture"
with respect to the orchestra, instead of playing a recording of
Firebird Suite.

This reviewer wrote and 8 page review.

Venue: Woodinville, WA, August 3
Posted by: Brian Beck (Heartunes@...)
"Not having the Firebird Suite is due likely to the cost at each live
event in the amount of about $2500 per show for the orchestra to
have the music in front of them to play, as indicated by a previous
reviewer. Residuals, et al ... It's MUCH more money than to
just play the recording. Multiply a dollar figure like that by the
number of shows (there is talk of a Magnification Tour with
orchestra :>). 100 shows would be a quarter of a mill ... "

Cheryl

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--- In metatuning@y..., "Paul H. Erlich" <PERLICH@A...> wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_346.html#346

> I thought I'd forward this, just because I was amazed to learn how
expensive it would be to have this Stravinsky piece performed by an
orchestra . . . and I love the piece in question . . .
>

Oh sure, Paul... This is exactly why it is so difficult for composers
to get orchestral music performed!!

__________ ____________ ________
Joseph Pehrson

--- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> --- In metatuning@y..., "Paul H. Erlich" <PERLICH@A...> wrote:
>
> /metatuning/topicId_346.html#346
>
> > I thought I'd forward this, just because I was amazed to learn
how
> expensive it would be to have this Stravinsky piece performed by an
> orchestra . . . and I love the piece in question . . .
> >
>
> Oh sure, Paul... This is exactly why it is so difficult for
composers
> to get orchestral music performed!!
>
In this case, the problem was that one has to spend so much money to
put the sheet music on the musicians' stands. But if you're a
composer, why not just print out all the parts in Finale . . . how
expensive is that?

--- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> --- In metatuning@y..., "Paul H. Erlich" <PERLICH@A...> wrote:
>
> /metatuning/topicId_346.html#346
>
> > I thought I'd forward this, just because I was amazed to learn
how
> expensive it would be to have this Stravinsky piece performed by an
> orchestra . . . and I love the piece in question . . .
> >
>
> Oh sure, Paul... This is exactly why it is so difficult for
composers
> to get orchestral music performed!!

In this case, the problem was the high cost of getting the sheet
music to put on the musicians' stands . . . but if you're the
composer, why not just print out the parts in Finale . . . that's not
too expensive, is it?

--- In metatuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <PERLICH@A...> wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_346.html#349

> --- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > --- In metatuning@y..., "Paul H. Erlich" <PERLICH@A...> wrote:
> >
> > /metatuning/topicId_346.html#346
> >
> > > I thought I'd forward this, just because I was amazed to learn
> how
> > expensive it would be to have this Stravinsky piece performed by
an
> > orchestra . . . and I love the piece in question . . .
> > >
> >
> > Oh sure, Paul... This is exactly why it is so difficult for
> composers
> > to get orchestral music performed!!
>
> In this case, the problem was the high cost of getting the sheet
> music to put on the musicians' stands . . . but if you're the
> composer, why not just print out the parts in Finale . . . that's
not
> too expensive, is it?

Hi Paul...

Oh... I thought you were speaking about the cost of hiring orchestral
musicians to play a piece... which is exorbitant.

Sure, if the composer prints out the score and parts himself it's not
very expensive... probably under $100...

If one had to hire a copyist it would be, naturally, considerably
more...

__________ _________ _____
Joseph Pehrson

--- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> --- In metatuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <PERLICH@A...> wrote:
>
> /metatuning/topicId_346.html#349
>
> > --- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > > --- In metatuning@y..., "Paul H. Erlich" <PERLICH@A...> wrote:
> > >
> > > /metatuning/topicId_346.html#346
> > >
> > > > I thought I'd forward this, just because I was amazed to
learn
> > how
> > > expensive it would be to have this Stravinsky piece performed
by
> an
> > > orchestra . . . and I love the piece in question . . .
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh sure, Paul... This is exactly why it is so difficult for
> > composers
> > > to get orchestral music performed!!
> >
> > In this case, the problem was the high cost of getting the sheet
> > music to put on the musicians' stands . . . but if you're the
> > composer, why not just print out the parts in Finale . . . that's
> not
> > too expensive, is it?
>
> Hi Paul...
>
> Oh... I thought you were speaking about the cost of hiring
orchestral
> musicians to play a piece... which is exorbitant.

No, that cost was already paid. Yes hires an orchestra in each city
they play a gig in. Jon Szanto was in one of these. The question
regarded why these orchestras weren't playing the Firebird Suite
(which is Yes's usual intro music).
>
> Sure, if the composer prints out the score and parts himself it's
not
> very expensive... probably under $100...
>
> If one had to hire a copyist it would be, naturally, considerably
> more...

So I'm wondering . . . isn't this piece now "public domain"? Why
should it be so vastly expensive to get the sheet music?