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12 string guitar

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

9/19/2002 7:44:38 AM

I'd like to know a little bit more about how the 12-string guitar
works. Do the smaller strings under the main strings reverberate at
the octave?? Is the method similar or different from the sitar??

Continuing down pop memory lane, I remember distinctly the very
upbeat, reverberant sound of the rock group "The Byrds..." I believe
that sound was partially due to the presence of the 12-string
guitar...

It would be nice to incorporate some of that cheerfully integrated
sound into more "abstracted" effort... may or may not be possible.

As I'm reading here the biography of the group from the CDNOW
website:

"The jangling, 12-string guitar sound of leader Roger McGuinn's
Rickenbacker was permanently absorbed into the vocabulary of rock."

Anybody know anything about the Rickenbacker guitar and how it
works...??

Thanks!

J. Pehrson

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

9/19/2002 7:52:55 AM

The four lower pairs are tuned in octaves and the top two pairs are the same
note.

> I'd like to know a little bit more about how the 12-string guitar
> works. Do the smaller strings under the main strings reverberate at
> the octave?? Is the method similar or different from the sitar??

They are not under, they are NEXT to the main strings. They ARE the main
strings.
A twelve string guitar has nothing to do with a sitar.

> Continuing down pop memory lane, I remember distinctly the very
> upbeat, reverberant sound of the rock group "The Byrds..." I believe
> that sound was partially due to the presence of the 12-string
> guitar...
>
> It would be nice to incorporate some of that cheerfully integrated
> sound into more "abstracted" effort... may or may not be possible.
>
> As I'm reading here the biography of the group from the CDNOW
> website:
>
> "The jangling, 12-string guitar sound of leader Roger McGuinn's
> Rickenbacker was permanently absorbed into the vocabulary of rock."
>
> Anybody know anything about the Rickenbacker guitar and how it
> works...??

It's an electric twelve string guitar. Not too much to it.

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🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

9/19/2002 8:36:44 AM

--- In metatuning@y..., David Beardsley <db@b...> wrote:

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> The four lower pairs are tuned in octaves and the top two pairs are
the same note.
>

***Got it. Thanks, David!

> > I'd like to know a little bit more about how the 12-string guitar
> > works. Do the smaller strings under the main strings reverberate
at
> > the octave?? Is the method similar or different from the sitar??
>
> They are not under, they are NEXT to the main strings. They ARE the
main strings.
> A twelve string guitar has nothing to do with a sitar.
>

***Got it. So, I guess the sitar works in an entirely different way,
and the "secondary" strings are not right next to the main ones and
are not played simultaneously?? Dunno.

> > Continuing down pop memory lane, I remember distinctly the very
> > upbeat, reverberant sound of the rock group "The Byrds..." I
believe
> > that sound was partially due to the presence of the 12-string
> > guitar...
> >
> > It would be nice to incorporate some of that cheerfully integrated
> > sound into more "abstracted" effort... may or may not be possible.
> >
> > As I'm reading here the biography of the group from the CDNOW
> > website:
> >
> > "The jangling, 12-string guitar sound of leader Roger McGuinn's
> > Rickenbacker was permanently absorbed into the vocabulary of
rock."
> >
> > Anybody know anything about the Rickenbacker guitar and how it
> > works...??
>
> It's an electric twelve string guitar. Not too much to it.
>

***Thanks, David. Do you use the 12-string guitar in works like
_Sonic Bloom??_ or is that a 6-string?

Joe

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

9/19/2002 8:58:46 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@...>

> > > I'd like to know a little bit more about how the 12-string guitar
> > > works. Do the smaller strings under the main strings reverberate
> at
> > > the octave?? Is the method similar or different from the sitar??
> >
> > They are not under, they are NEXT to the main strings. They ARE the
> main strings.
> > A twelve string guitar has nothing to do with a sitar.
> >
>
> ***Got it. So, I guess the sitar works in an entirely different way,
> and the "secondary" strings are not right next to the main ones and
> are not played simultaneously?? Dunno.

Yep. There are no secondary strings that ring in sympathy
to the main set on a 12 string guitar.

>
> > > Continuing down pop memory lane, I remember distinctly the very
> > > upbeat, reverberant sound of the rock group "The Byrds..." I
> believe
> > > that sound was partially due to the presence of the 12-string
> > > guitar...
> > >
> > > It would be nice to incorporate some of that cheerfully integrated
> > > sound into more "abstracted" effort... may or may not be possible.
> > >
> > > As I'm reading here the biography of the group from the CDNOW
> > > website:
> > >
> > > "The jangling, 12-string guitar sound of leader Roger McGuinn's
> > > Rickenbacker was permanently absorbed into the vocabulary of
> rock."
> > >
> > > Anybody know anything about the Rickenbacker guitar and how it
> > > works...??
> >
> > It's an electric twelve string guitar. Not too much to it.

Also...6 string Ricks are kinda jangaly anyways.

> ***Thanks, David. Do you use the 12-string guitar in works like
> _Sonic Bloom??_ or is that a 6-string?

Sonic Bloom is a synthesizer. I did use a guitar as a MIDI controler.

dB

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/19/2002 9:21:58 AM

Joni Mitchell is the master of the 12 string. Too bad she gave it up
(Ralph Towner not bad either:-)

Joseph Pehrson wrote:

>
>
> Continuing down pop memory lane, I remember distinctly the very
> upbeat, reverberant sound of the rock group "The Byrds..." I believe
> that sound was partially due to the presence of the 12-string
> guitar...
>

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