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Re: [metatuning] Re: practicing with a metronome/Werntz

🔗Afmmjr@...

5/29/2002 6:54:58 AM

Matthew Maneri was at the last concert (as his wife was dancing) and he
called me yesterday. I told him of Julia's 72-tone bias and the division she
is perceived to be drawing between JI and exotic tunings....and the further
fracturing of 12 ET. He was glad to be told (as I said to him, so he
wouldn't be blindsided). He knew nothing of this but told me squarely that
he does not share this view. He, and be extension, his father his completely
tolerant of other microtonal tunings and approaches. And that certainly has
been my experience with Joe.

As for a metronome, it is just like a microtonal tuner (e.g., Korg WT12) or a
heart pump. It is all about objective regulation so that an inner pulse can
be maintained while playing rhythms that are alive and that can float above,
or in catchy niches. Once the education part of the music plan is well
underway, the metronome goes into the background, eventually to disappear.

Same for the tuner. Once one can internalize a range of microtonal
intervals, the tuner is not so necessary, especially if one has an instrument
for further elucidation. My bassoon is a better tuner than a machine for me.
But then again, so is my voice and alto recorder. Ultimately, it all has to
be internalized, which is even more accurate than the instruments.

Best, Johnny Reinhard

🔗jpehrson2 <jpehrson@...>

5/29/2002 7:21:25 AM

--- In metatuning@y..., Afmmjr@a... wrote:

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> Matthew Maneri was at the last concert (as his wife was dancing)
and he
> called me yesterday. I told him of Julia's 72-tone bias and the
division she
> is perceived to be drawing between JI and exotic tunings....and the
further
> fracturing of 12 ET. He was glad to be told (as I said to him, so
he
> wouldn't be blindsided). He knew nothing of this but told me
squarely that
> he does not share this view. He, and be extension, his father his
completely
> tolerant of other microtonal tunings and approaches. And that
certainly has
> been my experience with Joe.
>
> As for a metronome, it is just like a microtonal tuner (e.g., Korg
WT12) or a
> heart pump. It is all about objective regulation so that an inner
pulse can
> be maintained while playing rhythms that are alive and that can
float above,
> or in catchy niches. Once the education part of the music plan is
well
> underway, the metronome goes into the background, eventually to
disappear.
>
> Same for the tuner. Once one can internalize a range of microtonal
> intervals, the tuner is not so necessary, especially if one has an
instrument
> for further elucidation. My bassoon is a better tuner than a
machine for me.
> But then again, so is my voice and alto recorder. Ultimately, it
all has to
> be internalized, which is even more accurate than the instruments.
>
> Best, Johnny Reinhard

***I agree entirely with Johnny's well-expressed, practical
estimations of the value of both the metronome and the tuner, and how
they are related. Nice, parallel, Johnny!

I was also happy to hear that Joe and Matt Maneri are not interested
in setting up the divisiveness that thought I read in the Julia
Werntz extract.

Now Julia herself says she is not doing that, so I will have to read
the entire Perspectives article. [Somebody fax it to me,
please... :) ] to appraise that.

J. Pehrson

🔗paulerlich <paul@...>

5/29/2002 1:37:54 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., Afmmjr@a... wrote:

> He, and be extension, his father his completely
> tolerant of other microtonal tunings and approaches. And that
certainly has
> been my experience with Joe.

likewise -- joe maneri seemed very positive toward a consonance-
oriented use of 22-equal, remarking that he liked the way it sounded
much better than 24-equal! (though perhaps he just dislikes the 12-
ness of 24, who knows . . .)

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

5/29/2002 4:20:56 PM

Paul!
guess what , i think 22 et sounds way better than 24 et also.

paulerlich wrote:

> likewise -- joe maneri seemed very positive toward a consonance-
> oriented use of 22-equal, remarking that he liked the way it sounded
> much better than 24-equal! (though perhaps he just dislikes the 12-
> ness of 24, who knows . . .)

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

🔗paulerlich <paul@...>

5/29/2002 4:47:39 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

> Paul!
> guess what , i think 22 et sounds way better than 24 et also.

yeah, i would have expected that from you, but from joe maneri of all
people it was a refreshing surprise.