Fear of police

I have written many posts, since joining the tuning list, in praise of,
and in support of, Paul E. I still feel the same way, happy to have
Paul on the list, spending what must be hours each day welcoming new
members, showing interest in their work, and, of course, correcting
fallacies where he sees them, in members new and old.

Paul has challenged my work many times. A good chunk of those times,
I have chosen to give his suggestions a try, and very often I'm pleased
by the results.

Other times, I've tried, but then discarded, his suggestions.

And still others, I've told him, in essence, "Thanks, but no thanks; I
don't think that's how I want to proceed." Or else, "Uh-huh; I'll add
it to the list," which more or less means, "Don't hold your breath."

Is there a point to all this reflection? It is that, to the extent that
Paul is a "policeman", he cannot "arrest" anyone who is not willing to
be arrested. What is there to fear? If every one of us is willing to
admit that our thinking is fuzzy at times (and this surely applies to
everyone walking on this earth!), then any help at unfuzzifying should
be welcome. Any misapplied attempts should be shrugged off without pain
or anger.

'Course, I'm still working on taking criticism in the right spirit.
Sometimes I wish that whatever it is had been stated in some other
manner, less grating to my sensibilities. But, really, that's _my_
problem, if I let anyone bump me from a sense of equanimity, if all
they're throwing at me is words.

Through all the ups and downs, I am steadfast in my appreciation for
Paul's presence. Hope he stays a long time!!

JdL

John!
I think what happens is that many share Paul's basic assumptions and
some don't. If one see things a certain way, often having to justify ones
direction is not the most productive way to go. I say this not as an insult
to Paul but just to let you know where others stand. I cannot think of
anything paul has said that has changed my mind in the least as to what and
how i do music.

"John A. deLaubenfels" wrote:

> Paul has challenged my work many times. A good chunk of those times,
> I have chosen to give his suggestions a try, and very often I'm pleased
> by the results.
>
> Other times, I've tried, but then discarded, his suggestions.
>

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

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[I wrote:]
>>Paul has challenged my work many times. A good chunk of those times,
>>I have chosen to give his suggestions a try, and very often I'm
>>pleased by the results.
>>
>>Other times, I've tried, but then discarded, his suggestions.

[Kraig Grady wrote:]
>John!
>I think what happens is that many share Paul's basic assumptions and
>some don't. If one see things a certain way, often having to justify
>ones direction is not the most productive way to go. I say this not as
>an insult to Paul but just to let you know where others stand. I cannot
>think of anything paul has said that has changed my mind in the least
>as to what and how i do music.

If I understand you correctly, you seem to be reinforcing my point. If
I produce what I claim to be a great orange, and someone says, "I don't
consider that a very good apple," how can that hurt me? If I wish to
respond at all, I will say, "I wasn't trying to produce an apple." No
further justification is necessary.

In any case, I have agreed that, if some feel more comfortable on a
separate list for whatever reason, they should form one. We all have to
cope with our own demons by whatever means are necessary.

JdL

[I wrote:]
>In any case, I have agreed that, if some feel more comfortable on a
>separate list for whatever reason, they should form one. We all have
>to cope with our own demons by whatever means are necessary.

Or, to put it in a way that is not quite so negative and/or
confrontational, we all need to surround ourselves with an environment
that nourishes our creative spirit, whether or not the reason for doing
so could be picked apart by some means or other.

JdL

John!
I respect and love those that answer their own post! it shows a balance
in dealing with our own inner commune.
Also i feel what you say hear could not be said better!
"John A. deLaubenfels" wrote:

> Or, to put it in a way that is not quite so negative and/or
> confrontational, we all need to surround ourselves with an environment
> that nourishes our creative spirit, whether or not the reason for doing
> so could be picked apart by some means or other.

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

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[Kraig Grady wrote:]
>John!
>I respect and love those that answer their own post! it shows a balance
>in dealing with our own inner commune.

>Also i feel what you say hear could not be said better!

Thank you very much! Sometimes I think the purpose of life is to try
to connect the various parts of our brain together. It is a very
difficult process... Music helps...

JdL

--- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_15.html#19

>
> John!
> I respect and love those that answer their own post! it shows a
balance
> in dealing with our own inner commune.
> Also i feel what you say hear could not be said better!
> "John A. deLaubenfels" wrote:
>
> > Or, to put it in a way that is not quite so negative and/or
> > confrontational, we all need to surround ourselves with an
environment
> > that nourishes our creative spirit, whether or not the reason for
doing
> > so could be picked apart by some means or other.
>
> -- Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
>
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm
>

FINALLY, I understand what John means about all this...

_______ _____ ______
Joseph Pehrson

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>
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[Joseph Pehrson wrote:]
>FINALLY, I understand what John means about all this...

How nice it was to hear you say that! And yet, after you wrote this,
I see you again on the tuning list, complaining about splintering.
What's up with that? Doesn't that post belong on _this_ list, as a meta
topic, rather than on the list where many MANY people have begged that
the posts stay on tuning-related topics?

The sheer volume of posts on that list is exhausting. I ask you please
_please_, consider doing your meta posts here rather than there.

JdL

--- In metatuning@y..., "John A. deLaubenfels" <jdl@a...> wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_15.html#24

> [Joseph Pehrson wrote:]
> >FINALLY, I understand what John means about all this...
>
> How nice it was to hear you say that! And yet, after you wrote
this,
> I see you again on the tuning list, complaining about splintering.
> What's up with that? Doesn't that post belong on _this_ list, as a
meta
> topic, rather than on the list where many MANY people have begged
that
> the posts stay on tuning-related topics?
>
> The sheer volume of posts on that list is exhausting. I ask you
please
> _please_, consider doing your meta posts here rather than there.
>
> JdL

OK, John, I will do that...

_________ ______ ______
Joseph Pehrson

[I wrote:]
>>The sheer volume of posts on that list is exhausting. I ask you
>>please _please_, consider doing your meta posts here rather than
>>there.

[Joseph Pehrson:]
>OK, John, I will do that...

Thanks, Joe, I appreciate that!!

JdL