Macedonia (from tuning list)

In
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Gene responded to Carl:

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@> wrote:
>
> > Funny, they don't show Rome taking over all of the
> > Macedonian empire. I thought that transfer happened
> > more or less in-place.
>
> One of Alexander's satrapies became the Parthian
> Empire, Rome's greatest enemy.

In fact, the vast majority of the Alexander's Macedonian
Empire became the Seleucid Empire after his death, which
in turn mostly eventually became the Parthian Empire.

Only a relatively small part of Alexander's Empire became
part of the Roman Empire, namely Egypt and Macedon itself,
which at that time comprised all of Greece. For a short
time Rome also had Mesopotamia.

In
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Ozan wrote:

> While attempts to lump together civilizations into such
> entities as Graeco-Roman or Arabo-Persian might apply
> to some cases in history, it does great injustice to
> pre-Roman thinkers of the Greek Heritage, or innovative
> Islamic thinkers who renounced all their cultural ties
> with Jahiliyyah.

Actually the credit for the invention of almost everything
which belongs to the concept of "civilization" goes to
the Sumerians, and from most people they don't get anywhere
near the recognition they deserve.

(Too bad Oz isn't on this list ...)

-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software

monz wrote:
> In
> /tuning/topicId_71335.html#71475
> Gene responded to Carl:
> > >>--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Funny, they don't show Rome taking over all of the
>>>Macedonian empire. I thought that transfer happened
>>>more or less in-place.
>>
>>One of Alexander's satrapies became the Parthian >>Empire, Rome's greatest enemy.
> > In fact, the vast majority of the Alexander's Macedonian
> Empire became the Seleucid Empire after his death, which
> in turn mostly eventually became the Parthian Empire.

Is that right? I can't reach these maps but I don't recall the Seleucid part being that dominant.

> Only a relatively small part of Alexander's Empire became
> part of the Roman Empire, namely Egypt and Macedon itself,
> which at that time comprised all of Greece. For a short
> time Rome also had Mesopotamia.

I didn't think Macedon covered the whole of Greece. The maps I've seen didn't even include all the city states in Alexander's empire. He dominated them but it was the Romans who formally united them.

Greece, Egypt and Mesopotamia were considerable territories at the time, counting either wealth or population.

> In
> /tuning/topicId_71335.html#71393
> Ozan wrote:
> > >>While attempts to lump together civilizations into such
>>entities as Graeco-Roman or Arabo-Persian might apply
>>to some cases in history, it does great injustice to
>>pre-Roman thinkers of the Greek Heritage, or innovative
>>Islamic thinkers who renounced all their cultural ties
>>with Jahiliyyah.
> > > Actually the credit for the invention of almost everything
> which belongs to the concept of "civilization" goes to
> the Sumerians, and from most people they don't get anywhere
> near the recognition they deserve.

*cough* "Western civilization" *cough*

Graham