glarin' mclaren

--- In metatuning@y..., "X. J. Scott" <xjscott@e...> wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_unknown.html#108

>
> > what is to prevent McLaren from Joining or do we
> > just unsubscribe then!
>
> Nothing! Just set your email filters to reject the posts
> of anyone you don't like.
>
> And then the people who do want to listen to
> whoever are welcome to!
>
> Or, you could scan for the name of people you don't
> want to hear about and have your email program (if
> you have Outlook) make the subject line be bright green or
> yellow or red or whatever danger color you like so you
> can toss it out.
>
> The last thing I'm looking for is to be a target for
> every one's hate mail cos I won't ban this or that person.
> We haven't heard from Jacky yet, perhaps he has
> gone on vacation, but I would imagine all the stress
> of getting all the banning requests and such is
> what caused him to pull the plug, assuming that's
> what happened.
>
> Anyway, trouble like that I don't need!

I hate to be "difficult..." but for me, McLaren's posts were about
the only thing interesting on the Practicalmicrotonality list!

________ _______ _______
Joseph Pehrson

>
> - Jeff

--- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> I hate to be "difficult..." but for me, McLaren's posts were about
> the only thing interesting on the Practicalmicrotonality list!

Since you appear to be either the only one, or one of the rare few,
who feels this way, there is no reason for the two of you to have a
productive and beneficial *private* email correspondence. Everybody
wins.

Jon

Joseph!
Well you got his e-mail and maybe you have more in common than you realize!

jpehrson@... wrote:

> I hate to be "difficult..." but for me, McLaren's posts were about
> the only thing interesting on the Practicalmicrotonality list!

jpehrson@... wrote:

Maybe they just don't "like you" Jon...

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

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--- In metatuning@y..., JSZANTO@A... wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_112.html#115

> --- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > I hate to be "difficult..." but for me, McLaren's posts were
about
> > the only thing interesting on the Practicalmicrotonality list!
>
> Since you appear to be either the only one, or one of the rare few,
> who feels this way, there is no reason for the two of you to have a
> productive and beneficial *private* email correspondence. Everybody
> wins.
>
> Jon

Jon... I think you wanted to add a "not" in this sentence, "no?"

_________ _______ ______
Joseph Pehrson

Joe,

--- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> Jon... I think you wanted to add a "not" in this sentence, "no?"

Absolutely. What's that Monz says, "me bad"? Yes, the idea was I
thought you and Brian could have a fruitful correspondence between
the two of you.

Jon

--- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_112.html#116

> Joseph!
> Well you got his e-mail and maybe you have more in common than you
realize!
>
> jpehrson@r... wrote:
>
> > I hate to be "difficult..." but for me, McLaren's posts were about
> > the only thing interesting on the Practicalmicrotonality list!
>
> jpehrson@r... wrote:
>
> Maybe they just don't "like you" Jon...
>
>

Yuck, yuck... that's a "good one," Kraig... You're pretty perceptive
sometimes...

Even *I* can't warm up to the "flame thrower..." :)

________ ________ ______
Joseph Pehrson

--- In metatuning@y..., JSZANTO@A... wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_112.html#118

> Joe,
>
> --- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > Jon... I think you wanted to add a "not" in this sentence, "no?"
>
> Absolutely. What's that Monz says, "me bad"? Yes, the idea was I
> thought you and Brian could have a fruitful correspondence between
> the two of you.
>
> Jon

Yes, Jon... I can hardly wait for that. We *did* that already at
MicroFest. He did all the talking and I stood there. That's
the "interchange..."

_________ ________ ______
Joseph Pehrson

Joe,

--- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> Yes, Jon... I can hardly wait for that. We *did* that already at
> MicroFest. He did all the talking and I stood there. That's
> the "interchange..."

Ah, hell, I'm totally confused. I thought you liked his stuff and I
inferred a greater dialogue was at hand. But the scenario you write
about above is what I would usually expect to happen. I'm only sorry
you weren't there on Friday when he insulted the entire roomful of
microtonalists, including (and especially) the host of the
conference, Bill Alves.

Jon

From: <JSZANTO@...>

> --- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > Yes, Jon... I can hardly wait for that. We *did* that already at
> > MicroFest. He did all the talking and I stood there. That's
> > the "interchange..."
>
> Ah, hell, I'm totally confused. I thought you liked his stuff and I
> inferred a greater dialogue was at hand. But the scenario you write
> about above is what I would usually expect to happen. I'm only sorry
> you weren't there on Friday when he insulted the entire roomful of
> microtonalists, including (and especially) the host of the
> conference, Bill Alves

Wow! What did he say?

David Beardsley

--- In metatuning@y..., JSZANTO@A... wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_112.html#122

> Joe,
>
> --- In metatuning@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > Yes, Jon... I can hardly wait for that. We *did* that already at
> > MicroFest. He did all the talking and I stood there. That's
> > the "interchange..."
>
> Ah, hell, I'm totally confused. I thought you liked his stuff and I
> inferred a greater dialogue was at hand. But the scenario you write
> about above is what I would usually expect to happen. I'm only
sorry
> you weren't there on Friday when he insulted the entire roomful of
> microtonalists, including (and especially) the host of the
> conference, Bill Alves.
>
> Jon

Yes, that was *indeed* a very clever and "political" move on his
part! :)

At that moment, I was standing under a palm tree with my wife, trying
to figure out where the school was...

Just missed it by 1/2 hour...

No... the fact is I, unfortunately, find mclaren "entertaining..."
but it's like watching sex and violence... gratuitous...

__________ _______ ______
Joseph Pehrson

[Joseph Pehrson wrote:]
>No... the fact is I, unfortunately, find mclaren "entertaining..."
>but it's like watching sex and violence... gratuitous...

I'm glad to hear you say this, because I was starting to worry about
your gleeful rubbing of hands at all the carnage.

I feel entertained to some extent, but other factors outweigh that
feeling. Here's a very sad person, flaunting his sadness to the world.
Then, when helping hands try to reach out, he snaps at them. I'm a
reasonably big boy, so if he pops off at me (as he in fact did once
before the nuke hit), I can deal with it. And I can respect anyone's
passion for music, though it might have a somewhat different focus than
my own.

What I have a _lot_ more trouble tolerating is his complete and total
refusal to acknowledge the extent to which many people DID respond to
his challenge(s). Over and over again, in ever more strident tone, he
said "Nothing! Absolutely nothing! Total silence!" (etc., etc. - I
can't do a good imitation...).

This is difficult for me to forgive. This is not passion, it is lies.
I really think he needs to get past that before I would want to accept
his presence on a list.

And puh-leeze! 2000 lines and 100K bytes in ONE post? Wouldn't 1000
lines be enough? Rant if you will, but condense it down a bit! I too
have a slow connection.

JdL

John deLaubenfels wrote:

> And puh-leeze! 2000 lines and 100K bytes in ONE post? Wouldn't
1000
> lines be enough? Rant if you will, but condense it down a bit! I
too
> have a slow connection.

Incidentally, we needn't be helpless victims here. It's fairly easy
to write a Python script to delete messages from the server if they
exceed a certain size, or come from a certain person. It won't work
with digests, but it's a start.

As an example, here's the script I use to clear any tuning list
messages I've read at work so I don't have to download them again at
home. You can update it to work with whatever mailing lists you're
subscribed to, and whatever spam you regularly get.

import string, re
import getpass, poplib

liststrings = [
"'Mailing-List: list tuning@yahoogroups.com; contact tuning-
owner@yahoogroups.com',",
"'Mailing-List: list practicalmicrotonality@yahoogroups.com;
contact practicalmicrotonality-owner@yahoogroups.com',",
"'Mailing-List: list harmonic_entropy@yahoogroups.com; contact
harmonic_entropy-owner@yahoogroups.com',",
]
spamstrings = ["'From: \"silicon.com\" <silicon@...>',",
"'To: minim@...',"]

box = poplib.POP3('mail.your.isp')
box.user('username')
box.pass_(getpass.getpass())
count, size = box.stat()
for mess in range(1,count-10): # save 10-ish messages
header = str(box.top(mess, 0))
for junkstring in (liststrings+spamstrings):
if string.find(header, junkstring)>=0:
print mess, subject
box.dele(mess)
break
box.quit()

--- In metatuning@y..., "John A. deLaubenfels" <jdl@a...> wrote:

/metatuning/topicId_112.html#132

> What I have a _lot_ more trouble tolerating is his complete and
total refusal to acknowledge the extent to which many people DID
respond to his challenge(s). Over and over again, in ever more
strident tone, he said "Nothing! Absolutely nothing! Total
silence!" (etc., etc. - I can't do a good imitation...).
>

You are right, John... he would make a lousy scientist. He has his
conclusions drawn before the experiment begins!!!

_________ ______ _______
Joseph Pehrson

What I have a _lot_ more trouble tolerating is his complete and total
refusal to acknowledge the extent to which many people DID respond to
his challenge(s). Over and over again, in ever more strident tone,
he
said "Nothing! Absolutely nothing! Total silence!" (etc., etc. -
I
can't do a good imitation...)

If you are into "labeling" behaviors that is usually seen as a
delusional psychosis.