new piece in Jorgenson 5&7 temperament...

....it's called 'pectan bob natcep', and it features Jorgenson 5&7 temperament
(technically, a subset of 70-tet), which gives a nice mixture of pelogic and
'slendrogic', the black keys being 5-tet and the white keys 7-tet. I like
this tuning alot and have used it with 'Divide by Pi' quite a bit. There's
also use of the Korg MS-2000 virtual analog synth here for some of the
weirder glips and gurgles and splarts. Here's the link:

http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/pectan_bob_natcep.mp3
or even better:
http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/pectan_bob_natcep.ogg

As always, comments of any sort welcome.

Cheers,
--
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.dividebypi.com

>....it's called 'pectan bob natcep', and it features Jorgenson 5&7
>temperament (technically, a subset of 70-tet), which gives a nice
>mixture of pelogic and 'slendrogic', the black keys being 5-tet and
>the white keys 7-tet. I like this tuning alot and have used it with
>'Divide by Pi' quite a bit. There's also use of the Korg MS-2000
>virtual analog synth here for some of the weirder glips and gurgles
>and splarts. Here's the link:
>
>http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/pectan_bob_natcep.mp3
>or even better:
>http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/pectan_bob_natcep.ogg
>
>As always, comments of any sort welcome.

Coolness. Is the MS-2000 in 12-equal? What's the other synth?
Also, note there is a linear temperament which used to be called
Pelogic, but which is now called Mavila, the natural 5-tone
scale of which has alternating 2nds of about 164 and 358 cents.

-Carl

On Tuesday 30 November 2004 03:10 pm, Carl Lumma wrote:
> >(aaron wrote)
> >....it's called 'pectan bob natcep', and it features Jorgenson 5&7
> >temperament (technically, a subset of 70-tet), which gives a nice
> >mixture of pelogic and 'slendrogic', the black keys being 5-tet and
> >the white keys 7-tet. I like this tuning alot and have used it with
> >'Divide by Pi' quite a bit. There's also use of the Korg MS-2000
> >virtual analog synth here for some of the weirder glips and gurgles
> >and splarts. Here's the link:
> >
> >http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/pectan_bob_natcep.mp3
> >or even better:
> >http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/pectan_bob_natcep.ogg
> >
> >As always, comments of any sort welcome.
>
> Coolness. Is the MS-2000 in 12-equal? What's the other synth?
> Also, note there is a linear temperament which used to be called
> Pelogic, but which is now called Mavila, the natural 5-tone
> scale of which has alternating 2nds of about 164 and 358 cents.

The MS-2000 I think was tuned to 5&7 as well. The other synth was my old Korg
X5DR, on the general midi patch called 'Synth Bass 1' which does quite well
in the treble as well, I must say. I also like that it is mellow enough for
'out there' non-just tunings.

Mr. Erlich has told me to try 'Mavila'. I'll get around to it--my current
agenda has several other hot areas of interest tuning-wise that were in the
queue long before Mavila was.....

Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.dividebypi.com

I did quite extensive research on the scales of the Chopi including correspondence with the son of the man who collected the first tuning records we have of the them.
Mavila is a scale from a Chopi Village of that name. Meta Mavila is a recurrent sequence that has a generator of 523.656+ cents. It forms MOS's at 5,7,9,16,23 etc.

Carl Lumma wrote:

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>Also, note there is a linear temperament which used to be called
>Pelogic, but which is now called Mavila, the natural 5-tone
>scale of which has alternating 2nds of about 164 and 358 cents.
>
>-Carl
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--
Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

>>Also, note there is a linear temperament which used to be called
>>Pelogic, but which is now called Mavila, the natural 5-tone
>>scale of which has alternating 2nds of about 164 and 358 cents.
>
>I did quite extensive research on the scales of the Chopi including
>correspondence with the son of the man who collected the first
>tuning records we have of the them.
>Mavila is a scale from a Chopi Village of that name. Meta Mavila
>is a recurrent sequence that has a generator of 523.656+ cents. It
>forms MOS's at 5,7,9,16,23 etc.

Heya Kraig,

I didn't know you had done research into Chopi music; that's
interesting. I also don't know who the Chopi are. Can you tell
us a little about them?

I wasn't the one who named Mavila, and in fact I prefer the
Pelogic name for unrelated reasons. But note that it is a linear
temperament, and as such its name may not necessarily be meant
to convey a direct connection to the music of any specific culture.
That said, the TOP tuning of the Mavila temperament can be seen as
having a 521.5-cent generator. So it's very close to Meta Mavila.
Paul E. chose this name, and I'm sure he had good reasons for
doing so.

-Carl

The Chopi are a tribe in Mozambique that a half century ago had what resembled wooden Gamelans tuned to a variety of scales that tetter around 7 Et ( but are not this animal).
there was quite a bit of speculation that maybe gamelan originated in africa or the africans were influenced by the indonesians. We know that the chinese colonized Madagascar between 100-700 AD with giant vessels that carried up to 400 people.
it was for this reason that i first became interested and worked out some recurrent sequence that worked quite well with their scales. The tunings i past on to Erv and he became interested in especially Mavila. hence his own sequence. otherwise i noticed that it was formula works quite well for their scales ( i can't look this up right now). unfortunately they are down to one timbala tuner ( timbala is the name of the ensemble of instruments). My objection is that the name is already taken to describe previous work. possibly it should at least be preceded with something such as Erv use of meta-.

Carl Lumma wrote:

>>>Also, note there is a linear temperament which used to be called
>>>Pelogic, but which is now called Mavila, the natural 5-tone
>>>scale of which has alternating 2nds of about 164 and 358 cents.
>>> >>>
>>I did quite extensive research on the scales of the Chopi including >>correspondence with the son of the man who collected the first
>>tuning records we have of the them.
>>Mavila is a scale from a Chopi Village of that name. Meta Mavila
>>is a recurrent sequence that has a generator of 523.656+ cents. It
>>forms MOS's at 5,7,9,16,23 etc.
>> >>
>
>Heya Kraig,
>
>I didn't know you had done research into Chopi music; that's
>interesting. I also don't know who the Chopi are. Can you tell
>us a little about them?
>
>I wasn't the one who named Mavila, and in fact I prefer the
>Pelogic name for unrelated reasons. But note that it is a linear
>temperament, and as such its name may not necessarily be meant
>to convey a direct connection to the music of any specific culture.
>That said, the TOP tuning of the Mavila temperament can be seen as
>having a 521.5-cent generator. So it's very close to Meta Mavila.
>Paul E. chose this name, and I'm sure he had good reasons for
>doing so.
>
>-Carl
>
>
>
>
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> >

--
Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron K. Johnson"

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<akjmicro@c...> wrote:
>
> ....it's called 'pectan bob natcep', and it features Jorgenson 5&7
temperament
> (technically, a subset of 70-tet), which gives a nice mixture of
pelogic and
> 'slendrogic', the black keys being 5-tet and the white keys 7-tet.
I like
> this tuning alot and have used it with 'Divide by Pi' quite a bit.
There's
> also use of the Korg MS-2000 virtual analog synth here for some of
the
> weirder glips and gurgles and splarts. Here's the link:
>
> http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/pectan_bob_natcep.mp3
> or even better:
> http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/pectan_bob_natcep.ogg
>
> As always, comments of any sort welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Aaron Krister Johnson
> http://www.akjmusic.com
> http://www.dividebypi.com

***Hmmm curious anagram...

I like it... I starts out like Steve Reich and then goes mad. Good
for it! :) As usual, I like descending microtonal stuff. Seems
to "show of" the non-12ness of it all...

J. Pehrson