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New - Prelude 3 for 19ET Piano

🔗idealordid <jeff@...>

10/2/2004 3:36:26 PM

A dramatically atmospheric piece which alternately become barbaric and
pounding. Plenty of blues influences, but a more Debussyean approach
than #2.

http://www.parnasse.com/mp3/Jeff-Harrington_Prelude_3_for_19ET_Piano.mp3
http://www.parnasse.com/pdf/HarringtonPrelude3-19ET.pdf

Enjoy! Comments welcome as always...

jeff harrington
http://jeffharrington.org - new music
http://netnewmusic.net - new music portal
http://beepsnort.org - new music bl

🔗Aaron K. Johnson <akjmicro@...>

10/2/2004 10:25:58 PM

On Saturday 02 October 2004 05:36 pm, idealordid wrote:
> A dramatically atmospheric piece which alternately become barbaric and
> pounding. Plenty of blues influences, but a more Debussyean approach
> than #2.
>
> http://www.parnasse.com/mp3/Jeff-Harrington_Prelude_3_for_19ET_Piano.mp3
> http://www.parnasse.com/pdf/HarringtonPrelude3-19ET.pdf

Very nice....not as much Debussy (at least not rhythmically, but I can see
broadly that the modal sense is similar) to me as Keith Jarrett, but that's
ok too ! I like all of your work, Jeff, and have turned on a friend of mine
to it as well.

Again, the music's great, but the timbre stinks, and I think that in spite of
your rant about the lack of good sounding MIDI patches, there are certainly
better ones than this. In my mind's eye, I was listening to this imagining it
on an acoustic piano, or at least a good soundfont or at the very least a
Kurzweil or Yamaha digital piano, and really was thinking it would be most
incredible ! (look, give me the midi file, I'll try and do a decent piano
soundfont realization...but I'm not at all offended if you *don't* want to
take me up on that-just want to alert you to other possibilities for MIDI
timbre you may not have explored, other than the ones you may have resigned
yourself to). Bad piano MIDI patches must die.

I like this style, and it's not to far from the way I tend to improvise (esp.
I mean the texture and syncopation and modal sense) at the piano at the
temple I play for here in Chicago.

Best,
--
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.dividebypi.com

🔗idealordid <jeff@...>

10/3/2004 6:32:43 AM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron K. Johnson"
<akjmicro@c...> wrote:
> Very nice....not as much Debussy (at least not rhythmically, but I
can see
> broadly that the modal sense is similar) to me as Keith Jarrett, but
that's
> ok too ! I like all of your work, Jeff, and have turned on a friend
of mine
> to it as well.

Wow, that made my morning!

>
> Again, the music's great, but the timbre stinks, and I think that in
spite of
> your rant about the lack of good sounding MIDI patches, there are
certainly
> better ones than this.

Yeah, I'm sure of that. I make no claims to making good MIDI
realizations. I think of them more as bait to get musicians to play
them. Steve Layton made all of my good piano realizations,
interpreting BlueStrider and DeltaBandResonator.

> In my mind's eye, I was listening to this imagining it
> on an acoustic piano, or at least a good soundfont or at the very
least a
> Kurzweil or Yamaha digital piano, and really was thinking it would
be most
> incredible ! (look, give me the midi file, I'll try and do a decent
piano
> soundfont realization...but I'm not at all offended if you *don't*
want to
> take me up on that-just want to alert you to other possibilities for
MIDI
> timbre you may not have explored, other than the ones you may have
resigned
> yourself to). Bad piano MIDI patches must die.
>

Yes! That would be fantastic and very generous of you.
http://parnasse.com/midi/prelude3-19ET.mid

> I like this style, and it's not to far from the way I tend to
improvise (esp.
> I mean the texture and syncopation and modal sense) at the piano at
the
> temple I play for here in Chicago.

Cool... yeah I was playing it for Elsie (my spouse) last night and
although she loved #2, she was saying just what you've been saying,
there has to be a better way to realize those. Then I played the
improvisations I did leading up to the piece... and she was like,
'yeah I could listen to these much easier.'

jeff harrington
http://jeffharrington.org - new music
http://netnewmusic.net - new music portal
http://beepsnort.org - new music blog

🔗Aaron K. Johnson <akjmicro@...>

10/5/2004 12:35:12 PM

Hey,

Just wanted to publicly say that for the moment I have to put aside realizing
Jeff's prelude with a piano soundfont. My apologies. This is due to 2 pieces
of news, one bad, one good:

1) I just found out this morning that my paternal grandfather died. I will be
busy organizing my business affairs so I can take a brief trip to California
for his funeral.

2) I took a commission to do inter-scene/inter-act incidental music and sound
design for a theatre production (Ibsen's Peer Gynt). Yes, I plan to use
JI/microtonality where appropriate ;) In fact, I've already sketch my answer
to Grieg's 'In the Hall of the Mountain King'--this time it's going to be a
massive pipe organ sound playing in 3 and 7 based JI !!!!

So, Jeff, in case you're wondering why I haven't gotten round to it, you
deserved an answer.....I will eventually do it, but maybe Gene (who I know
does soundfonts well) might do it for you in the meantime, if he's not busy
and is willing. Or, you could investigate soundfonts yourself (that is if you
have a Soundblaster type sound card). A good piano soundfont would be
something like Trachtman's Steinway. Even a mediocre piano soundfont would do
better than whatever patch you did use ;)

Best to all,
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.dividebypi.com

On Sunday 03 October 2004 08:32 am, idealordid wrote:
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron K. Johnson"
>
> <akjmicro@c...> wrote:
> > Very nice....not as much Debussy (at least not rhythmically, but I
>
> can see
>
> > broadly that the modal sense is similar) to me as Keith Jarrett, but
>
> that's
>
> > ok too ! I like all of your work, Jeff, and have turned on a friend
>
> of mine
>
> > to it as well.
>
> Wow, that made my morning!
>
> > Again, the music's great, but the timbre stinks, and I think that in
>
> spite of
>
> > your rant about the lack of good sounding MIDI patches, there are
>
> certainly
>
> > better ones than this.
>
> Yeah, I'm sure of that. I make no claims to making good MIDI
> realizations. I think of them more as bait to get musicians to play
> them. Steve Layton made all of my good piano realizations,
> interpreting BlueStrider and DeltaBandResonator.
>
> > In my mind's eye, I was listening to this imagining it
> > on an acoustic piano, or at least a good soundfont or at the very
>
> least a
>
> > Kurzweil or Yamaha digital piano, and really was thinking it would
>
> be most
>
> > incredible ! (look, give me the midi file, I'll try and do a decent
>
> piano
>
> > soundfont realization...but I'm not at all offended if you *don't*
>
> want to
>
> > take me up on that-just want to alert you to other possibilities for
>
> MIDI
>
> > timbre you may not have explored, other than the ones you may have
>
> resigned
>
> > yourself to). Bad piano MIDI patches must die.
>
> Yes! That would be fantastic and very generous of you.
> http://parnasse.com/midi/prelude3-19ET.mid
>
> > I like this style, and it's not to far from the way I tend to
>
> improvise (esp.
>
> > I mean the texture and syncopation and modal sense) at the piano at
>
> the
>
> > temple I play for here in Chicago.
>
> Cool... yeah I was playing it for Elsie (my spouse) last night and
> although she loved #2, she was saying just what you've been saying,
> there has to be a better way to realize those. Then I played the
> improvisations I did leading up to the piece... and she was like,
> 'yeah I could listen to these much easier.'
>
> jeff harrington
> http://jeffharrington.org - new music
> http://netnewmusic.net - new music portal
> http://beepsnort.org - new music blog
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

🔗Kristian Høgh Stephansen <stagh@...>

10/5/2004 2:24:31 PM

Hey,

[cut]
>Or, you could investigate soundfonts yourself (that is if you
>have a Soundblaster type sound card). A good piano soundfont would be
>something like Trachtman's Steinway. Even a mediocre piano soundfont would
do
>better than whatever patch you did use ;)

These are quite good (and free!):
Fazioli Concert Grand
http://www.hum.aau.dk/~bovbjerg/piano3.html

Steinway Model C:
http://www.hum.aau.dk/~bovbjerg/piano4.html

/ Kristian

🔗idealordid <jeff@...>

10/6/2004 5:52:55 AM

Thanks for any efforts you made in this regard and I wish you the best
on the loss of your grandfather. I'm looking at improving my piano
realizations, thanks to you...

jeff

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron K. Johnson"
<akjmicro@c...> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Just wanted to publicly say that for the moment I have to put aside
realizing
> Jeff's prelude with a piano soundfont. My apologies. This is due to
2 pieces
> of news, one bad, one good:
>
> 1) I just found out this morning that my paternal grandfather died.
I will be
> busy organizing my business affairs so I can take a brief trip to
California
> for his funeral.
>
> 2) I took a commission to do inter-scene/inter-act incidental music
and sound
> design for a theatre production (Ibsen's Peer Gynt). Yes, I plan to use
> JI/microtonality where appropriate ;) In fact, I've already sketch
my answer
> to Grieg's 'In the Hall of the Mountain King'--this time it's going
to be a
> massive pipe organ sound playing in 3 and 7 based JI !!!!
>
> So, Jeff, in case you're wondering why I haven't gotten round to it,
you
> deserved an answer.....I will eventually do it, but maybe Gene (who
I know
> does soundfonts well) might do it for you in the meantime, if he's
not busy
> and is willing. Or, you could investigate soundfonts yourself (that
is if you
> have a Soundblaster type sound card). A good piano soundfont would be
> something like Trachtman's Steinway. Even a mediocre piano soundfont
would do
> better than whatever patch you did use ;)
>
> Best to all,
> Aaron Krister Johnson
> http://www.akjmusic.com
> http://www.dividebypi.com
>
>
> On Sunday 03 October 2004 08:32 am, idealordid wrote:
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron K. Johnson"
> >
> > <akjmicro@c...> wrote:
> > > Very nice....not as much Debussy (at least not rhythmically, but I
> >
> > can see
> >
> > > broadly that the modal sense is similar) to me as Keith Jarrett, but
> >
> > that's
> >
> > > ok too ! I like all of your work, Jeff, and have turned on a friend
> >
> > of mine
> >
> > > to it as well.
> >
> > Wow, that made my morning!
> >
> > > Again, the music's great, but the timbre stinks, and I think that in
> >
> > spite of
> >
> > > your rant about the lack of good sounding MIDI patches, there are
> >
> > certainly
> >
> > > better ones than this.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm sure of that. I make no claims to making good MIDI
> > realizations. I think of them more as bait to get musicians to play
> > them. Steve Layton made all of my good piano realizations,
> > interpreting BlueStrider and DeltaBandResonator.
> >
> > > In my mind's eye, I was listening to this imagining it
> > > on an acoustic piano, or at least a good soundfont or at the very
> >
> > least a
> >
> > > Kurzweil or Yamaha digital piano, and really was thinking it would
> >
> > be most
> >
> > > incredible ! (look, give me the midi file, I'll try and do a decent
> >
> > piano
> >
> > > soundfont realization...but I'm not at all offended if you *don't*
> >
> > want to
> >
> > > take me up on that-just want to alert you to other possibilities for
> >
> > MIDI
> >
> > > timbre you may not have explored, other than the ones you may have
> >
> > resigned
> >
> > > yourself to). Bad piano MIDI patches must die.
> >
> > Yes! That would be fantastic and very generous of you.
> > http://parnasse.com/midi/prelude3-19ET.mid
> >
> > > I like this style, and it's not to far from the way I tend to
> >
> > improvise (esp.
> >
> > > I mean the texture and syncopation and modal sense) at the piano at
> >
> > the
> >
> > > temple I play for here in Chicago.
> >
> > Cool... yeah I was playing it for Elsie (my spouse) last night and
> > although she loved #2, she was saying just what you've been saying,
> > there has to be a better way to realize those. Then I played the
> > improvisations I did leading up to the piece... and she was like,
> > 'yeah I could listen to these much easier.'
> >
> > jeff harrington
> > http://jeffharrington.org - new music
> > http://netnewmusic.net - new music portal
> > http://beepsnort.org - new music blog
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >

🔗idealordid <jeff@...>

10/6/2004 6:04:42 AM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kristian Høgh Stephansen
<stagh@v...> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> [cut]
> >Or, you could investigate soundfonts yourself (that is if you
> >have a Soundblaster type sound card). A good piano soundfont would be
> >something like Trachtman's Steinway. Even a mediocre piano
soundfont would
> do
> >better than whatever patch you did use ;)
>
> These are quite good (and free!):
> Fazioli Concert Grand
> http://www.hum.aau.dk/~bovbjerg/piano3.html
>
> Steinway Model C:
> http://www.hum.aau.dk/~bovbjerg/piano4.html
>

Very nice! What do you guys recommend for Microtunable soundfont
players (preferably free)? Is this something I could use InTun for?
I'm thinking of writing using my current hardware synth and then as a
final step realizing the piece with MIDI SounfFont file rendering.

Thanks for all the information...

jeff harrington
http://jeffharrington.org - new music
http://netnewmusic.net - new music portal
http://beepsnort.org - new music blog
http://webjay.org/by/idealord/mikrotonal-experimentaltuningmusic -
microtonal webjay playlist

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

10/16/2004 4:24:23 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "idealordid" <jeff@p...> wrote:

/makemicromusic/topicId_7696.html#7696

>
> A dramatically atmospheric piece which alternately become barbaric
and
> pounding. Plenty of blues influences, but a more Debussyean
approach
> than #2.
>
> http://www.parnasse.com/mp3/Jeff-
Harrington_Prelude_3_for_19ET_Piano.mp3
> http://www.parnasse.com/pdf/HarringtonPrelude3-19ET.pdf
>
> Enjoy! Comments welcome as always...
>
> jeff harrington
> http://jeffharrington.org - new music
> http://netnewmusic.net - new music portal
> http://beepsnort.org - new music bl

***I thought there was quite a bit of dynamic subtlety in this
piece...

J. Pehrson