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Pro Tools Free (??)

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

8/29/2003 7:42:17 PM

So, what is Pro Tools like? Is it something like Sonar??

And, why is the company giving it away for free??

http://secure.digidesign.com/

Thanks!

J. Pehrson

🔗Joel Hickman <joelhickman_1999@...>

8/30/2003 1:22:53 AM

Pro Tools is the best recording
engineering program out there!!
They give you a sample of it from
their website to try out.
I have Pro Tools and so do my
friends! I would buy it for your
recording needs!

:)
Joel

--- Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...> wrote:
> So, what is Pro Tools like? Is it something like
> Sonar??
>
> And, why is the company giving it away for free??
>
> http://secure.digidesign.com/
>
> Thanks!
>
> J. Pehrson
>
>
>

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🔗Jonathan M. Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

8/30/2003 12:40:04 AM

Joe,

{you wrote...}
>So, what is Pro Tools like? Is it something like Sonar??

No. Pro Tools is literally the default standard for hard disk recording. There a probably thousands of studios that are based around this platform, and anyone in the recording industry has Pro Tools chops. I've recently done recordings with an avant-garde big band where the leader lugs in his Mac G4 with Pro Tools, some outboard gear, a bunch of mics, and gets incredible recordings.

>And, why is the company giving it away for free??

Because it is a basic platform that they can expand their already impressive base. If you take the time to learn it, and set up your equipment properly, you can record the way many, if not *very* many, of the great and good recordings are being made these days. Not for casual users, but if one is serious about making good, multi-track recordings of their work (or other stuff) it can't be ignored.

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

8/30/2003 6:27:28 AM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan M. Szanto"

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<JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> {you wrote...}
> >So, what is Pro Tools like? Is it something like Sonar??
>
> No. Pro Tools is literally the default standard for hard disk
recording.

***Hi Jon,

Thanks, but Sonar, and other programs record to the hard disk as
well, no? So, I'm confused as to how it's different... (I suppose I
could get the demo and find out... :)

> There a probably thousands of studios that are based around this
platform, and anyone in the recording industry has Pro Tools chops.
I've recently done recordings with an avant-garde big band where the
leader lugs in his Mac G4 with Pro Tools, some outboard gear, a bunch
of mics, and gets incredible recordings.
>
> >And, why is the company giving it away for free??
>
> Because it is a basic platform that they can expand their already
> impressive base. If you take the time to learn it, and set up your
> equipment properly, you can record the way many, if not *very*
many, of the great and good recordings are being made these days. Not
for casual users, but if one is serious about making good, multi-
track recordings of their work (or other stuff) it can't be ignored.
>

***I guess, from their website, that they are in the business of
*hardware* that goes with this, at least for the more advanced set-
ups. Maybe that's what they have in mind with the free demo??

J. Pehrson

🔗Bonnie Goodwin <goodwinbonnie@...>

8/30/2003 10:25:04 AM

Hi!

Pro Tools a standard, owned by Avid for production. It is one of many, many types of ways to record things. Sonar is another. One editor looks like most any other editor and must have the same features. A multitrack recorder must have the same features, perhaps the same amount of tracks or more.

Everyone and his dog is advertising Pro Tools training these days. You can get similar systems from Mackie, TASCAM, and many others that are every bit as good. Select your bit width and sampling frequencies to suit your taste and budget and end usage and start using it!

I've been using digital recording and editing since 1992 using a Spectral Synthesis system (16 track 48kHz), these folks got bought out by Euphonix and developed their stand alone 48 track digital recording system called the R-1 used in many of the finest recording studios in the world. Note that few of the finest studios use Pro Tools, but may have a "Pro Tools Suite" somewhere in the building because many people are familar with that system.

I might add that optional control surfaces and extra monitors are often more valuable than having a Pro Tools system itself. Many manufacturers make control surfaces for Sonar, Cubase, etc. and having more real estate for the desktop on monitors has been a great help in getting excellent productivity. I now customarily use at least two monitors on most of my computers, or more, especially when needing to see the timeline, the mixing, effects I'm fiddling with, etc. One monitor gets very crowded in the midst of a big production.

Bonnie *:>

Joel Hickman <joelhickman_1999@...> wrote:
Pro Tools is the best recording
engineering program out there!!
They give you a sample of it from
their website to try out.
I have Pro Tools and so do my
friends! I would buy it for your
recording needs!

:)
Joel

--- Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...> wrote:
> So, what is Pro Tools like? Is it something like
> Sonar??
>
> And, why is the company giving it away for free??
>
> http://secure.digidesign.com/
>
> Thanks!
>
> J. Pehrson
>
>
>

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🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

8/30/2003 1:17:05 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Bonnie Goodwin

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<goodwinbonnie@y...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Pro Tools a standard, owned by Avid for production. It is one of
many, many types of ways to record things. Sonar is another. One
editor looks like most any other editor and must have the same
features. A multitrack recorder must have the same features, perhaps
the same amount of tracks or more.
>

***Thanks for the info!

J. Pehrson

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

8/30/2003 8:41:10 AM

>

allot of people do not like pro tools though. One feature where most other platforms give you free plug ins, they
charge up to a 100 bucks a pop. also there set up doesn't interfacew with most other stuff. it is above my head, but
i know more people who do not use it , than do. Professionals at that.
Logic seems to be a real hot software for most of the electronic people i know. In fact used on my last CD t oget
various recordings in different rooms to match. i can no longer tell.

>
> Subject: Re: Pro Tools Free (??)
>
> Joe,
>
> {you wrote...}
> >So, what is Pro Tools like? Is it something like Sonar??
>
> No. Pro Tools is literally the default standard for hard disk recording.
> There a probably thousands of studios that are based around this platform,
> and anyone in the recording industry has Pro Tools chops. I've recently
> done recordings with an avant-garde big band where the leader lugs in his
> Mac G4 with Pro Tools, some outboard gear, a bunch of mics, and gets
> incredible recordings.
>
> >And, why is the company giving it away for free??
>
> Because it is a basic platform that they can expand their already
> impressive base. If you take the time to learn it, and set up your
> equipment properly, you can record the way many, if not *very* many, of the
> great and good recordings are being made these days. Not for casual users,
> but if one is serious about making good, multi-track recordings of their
> work (or other stuff) it can't be ignored.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
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🔗Jonathan M. Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

8/30/2003 11:32:17 AM

Bonnie,

Thanks for your insights, valuable as you are a constant user of these tools.

Joe, you should go around to half a dozen project studios and see what is happening. DAW (digital audio workstations) are all over the place, and Bonnie is right: many can offer a path to your final product, and you simply need choose the one you feel comfortable working with *and* contains all that you need. If you already have Sonar, then from what I know of your work you won't need to look any further. If in the future, however, you end up collaborating with a composer or engineer that has a Pro Tools setup, it is valuable to have the free demo just so that you can get familiar with the interface and not waste time figuring it out instead of collaborating.

There are hundreds of word processors. What matters are the words that come out the other end...

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

8/31/2003 6:21:27 AM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan M. Szanto"

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If you already have Sonar, then from what I know of your
> work you won't need to look any further.

***Actually, I use "Digital Orchestrator Pro" by Voyetra. It may not
be as "great shakes" as some of the others (it's cheper, for
instance... :) but it does what I need it to do at present, and even
records audio as well as MIDI. I've been using it since way back in
its DOS incarnation, so I'm pretty used to how it works.

Thanks, for the tips though, Jon. I know you're right since I keep
hearing "Pro Tools," "Pro Tools," "Pro Tools" all over the place...

J. Pehrson

🔗Bonnie Goodwin <goodwinbonnie@...>

8/31/2003 11:38:52 AM

Hi Joseph,

Go with what you know. Change if you need more bells and whistles as I'm now doing with going from CAD to 3D modeling design. I've been around Cakewalk since 2.0 in DOS as well, in a lot of ways, it's still the same thing,. I still use my 16 track Spectral for a lot of things (16 bit 48k) and a DSP Factory for some personal projects.

Bonnie *:>

Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...> wrote:
--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan M. Szanto"

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If you already have Sonar, then from what I know of your
> work you won't need to look any further.

***Actually, I use "Digital Orchestrator Pro" by Voyetra. It may not
be as "great shakes" as some of the others (it's cheper, for
instance... :) but it does what I need it to do at present, and even
records audio as well as MIDI. I've been using it since way back in
its DOS incarnation, so I'm pretty used to how it works.

Thanks, for the tips though, Jon. I know you're right since I keep
hearing "Pro Tools," "Pro Tools," "Pro Tools" all over the place...

J. Pehrson

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🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

8/31/2003 2:12:00 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Bonnie Goodwin

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<goodwinbonnie@y...> wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
>
> Go with what you know. Change if you need more bells and whistles

***Thanks for the tips, Bonnie! That makes lots of sense...

Joseph