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🔗wallyesterpaulrus <wallyesterpaulrus@...>

10/1/2002 10:29:19 PM

the only reason i used the word "work" is to suggest that, just
because you're not the best melodist right now, there isn't reason to
give up on yourself forever. and that the best path to your goal will
pass through many genuinely musical (as well as
human/social/spiritual) *activities*, rather than doing nothing or
simply plugging in to some formula.

anyone still disagree?

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

10/2/2002 7:32:36 AM

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<wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> the only reason i used the word "work" is to suggest that, just
> because you're not the best melodist right now, there isn't reason
to
> give up on yourself forever. and that the best path to your goal
will
> pass through many genuinely musical (as well as
> human/social/spiritual) *activities*, rather than doing nothing or
> simply plugging in to some formula.
>
> anyone still disagree?

***As you are probably aware, Beethoven was not "immediately" gifted
in the melodic direction, as compared to somebody like Mozart.
Beethoven has sketch after sketch of his melodies, refining them,
changing them, crossing them out. I'm glad they kept all those
sketchbooks! Frankly, I like Beethoven's resulting melodies
better! :)

J. Pehrson

🔗wallyesterpaulrus <wallyesterpaulrus@...>

10/2/2002 1:14:49 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@r...> wrote:
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "wallyesterpaulrus"
>
> /makemicromusic/topicId_3810.html#3810
>
> <wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> > the only reason i used the word "work" is to suggest that, just
> > because you're not the best melodist right now, there isn't
reason
> to
> > give up on yourself forever. and that the best path to your goal
> will
> > pass through many genuinely musical (as well as
> > human/social/spiritual) *activities*, rather than doing nothing
or
> > simply plugging in to some formula.
> >
> > anyone still disagree?
>
>
> ***As you are probably aware, Beethoven was not "immediately"
gifted
> in the melodic direction, as compared to somebody like Mozart.
> Beethoven has sketch after sketch of his melodies, refining them,
> changing them, crossing them out. I'm glad they kept all those
> sketchbooks! Frankly, I like Beethoven's resulting melodies
> better! :)
>
> J. Pehrson

thanks -- when i brought up charlie parker and john coltrane, i meant
to bring up beethoven too, but i forgot. great example!

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

10/2/2002 6:21:53 PM

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<> thanks -- when i brought up charlie parker and john coltrane, i
meant to bring up beethoven too, but i forgot. great example!

***Yes, they all used to meet for beers in Heiligenstadt, if I'm not
mistaken...

JP

🔗Gene W Smith <genewardsmith@...>

10/5/2002 6:10:55 PM

> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:32:36 -0000
> From: "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@...>
> ***As you are probably aware, Beethoven was not "immediately" gifted
>
> in the melodic direction, as compared to somebody like Mozart.
> Beethoven has sketch after sketch of his melodies, refining them,
> changing them, crossing them out. I'm glad they kept all those
> sketchbooks! Frankly, I like Beethoven's resulting melodies
> better! :)

Beethoven said he always knew what he wanted and knew when he had finally
found it; his secret
seems to have been that knowing and the willingness to keep on looking.