Re: [MMM] Re: Help with midi dumps, scala, psr-530

>I downloaded megamid just for fun and opened it. Still
>nothing happens.

Hmm, are you sure you've set the output device to the
midi interface like I said? In Megamid, click on the
Setup button to see what it is. Play a music midi
file with it, do you hear anything?
Then carefully read the documentation, in case you've
forgotten.

Manuel

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...> wrote:

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> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., manuel.op.de.coul@e... wrote:
> > >I downloaded megamid just for fun and opened it. Still
> > >nothing happens.
> >
> > Hmm, are you sure you've set the output device to the
> > midi interface like I said? In Megamid, click on the
> > Setup button to see what it is. Play a music midi
> > file with it, do you hear anything?
> > Then carefully read the documentation, in case you've
> > forgotten.
> >
> > Manuel
>
> Friends - If I remember correctly, Megamid has never been able to
see
> my USB midi port.
>
> If you wish to flawlessly send your tunings to a synth, and have it
> work properly, create a midi file with Scala using first the "Set
> Synth", then the "Send/File" command. Import this midi file into
your
> midi sequencer - like Cakewalk Sonar, Cubase, etc - slow the tempo
> down on the sequencer, and play the file to your board. This works
> without fail every time for me.
>
> J:L

***I wish Manuel would develop tuning support for the Proteus 2000.
I don't believe he has that yet. I think lots of people are buying
that synth, because of its tunability and affordability.

Anyone have any comments on it?? I'm considering a purchase
somewhere down the road. I note that Sibelius has now started fully
supporting it.

Somebody said there was also some kind of software that could tune
it, either provided by the company or elsewhere. I think it was Carl
Lumma who was talking about that.

Anybody have any additional information or comments!!

Thanks!

JP

Also check the manual of the psr-530, does it really support
detuning? Or does it only have some built-in ones?

>***I wish Manuel would develop tuning support for the Proteus 2000.
>I don't believe he has that yet.

Yes I do, it's done with MTS.

Manuel

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., manuel.op.de.coul@e... wrote:

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> Also check the manual of the psr-530, does it really support
> detuning? Or does it only have some built-in ones?
>
> >***I wish Manuel would develop tuning support for the Proteus 2000.
> >I don't believe he has that yet.
>
> Yes I do, it's done with MTS.
>
> Manuel

***I'm sorry, Manuel, but I don't remember what "MTS" means...
anybody help??

JP

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> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., manuel.op.de.coul@e... wrote:
>
> /makemicromusic/topicId_3232.html#3241
>
> > Also check the manual of the psr-530, does it really support
> > detuning? Or does it only have some built-in ones?
> >
> > >***I wish Manuel would develop tuning support for the Proteus
2000.
> > >I don't believe he has that yet.
> >
> > Yes I do, it's done with MTS.
> >
> > Manuel
>

***Oh! You mean "sysex..."

But, I thought, Manuel, that you said you didn't have the
documentation yet on this synth to do this??

JP
>
> ***I'm sorry, Manuel, but I don't remember what "MTS" means...
> anybody help??
>
> JP

It is strange the manual allows for other tunings and I have manually
entered the ones via adjusting the cent distance from equal for each
note, but outside of that it doesn't say much of anything. Might it
be listed somewhere strange amongst the sysex compatibility data?
Again thanks for the persistance.

todd

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., manuel.op.de.coul@e... wrote:
> Also check the manual of the psr-530, does it really support
> detuning? Or does it only have some built-in ones?
>
> >***I wish Manuel would develop tuning support for the Proteus 2000.
> >I don't believe he has that yet.
>
> Yes I do, it's done with MTS.
>
> Manuel

Todd wrote:
>It is strange the manual allows for other tunings and I have manually
>entered the ones via adjusting the cent distance from equal for each
>note, but outside of that it doesn't say much of anything. Might it
>be listed somewhere strange amongst the sysex compatibility data?

Yes is there anything about XG parameter change? Which addresses
are supported. I doubt it that slowing midi down will help, because
it's only one sysex message.
Otherwise other things could be wrong, like memory protection is
on, or the XG system is off, or the device number is not right
(should be the lowest one). Check everything in the manual that
you think might be related.

Joseph, MTS is the MIDI Tuning Standard, it's indeed a kind of
sysex message. More about the Proteus 2000 later.

Manuel

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., manuel.op.de.coul@e... wrote:

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> Joseph, MTS is the MIDI Tuning Standard, it's indeed a kind of
> sysex message. More about the Proteus 2000 later.
>
> Manuel

***Hi Manuel!

Any help you can give me with this would be *greatly* appreciated,
since I'm on the "cusp" of purchasing this...

I gather one can *play* the MIDI file then, within the Proteus 2000
generated with the Scala "general MIDI" synth selection and it
will "tune it right up." I hope so. That would be terrific.

Thanks!

Joseph

If Todd B. is still reading, I've heard that some XG synths
don't respond to sysex messages which contain a tuning of more
than one note, in particular the Yamaha PSR-9000.
Since Scala puts all 12 key-tuning pairs in one sysex
message, this could be a problem. Apparently Yamaha makes
instruments that don't conform to their own standard.
So, you could try putting together the sysex messages
yourself, using the utilities mf2t and t2mf which are
supplied with Scala. Perhaps putting a small delta time
in between each message is a good idea.
You can find the XG spec on the internet somewhere, don't
have a link at hand.
Then look for parameter addresses 41H to 4CH.

Manuel

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., manuel.op.de.coul@e... wrote:
> If Todd B. is still reading, I've heard that some XG synths
> don't respond to sysex messages which contain a tuning of more
> than one note, in particular the Yamaha PSR-9000.
> Since Scala puts all 12 key-tuning pairs in one sysex
> message, this could be a problem. Apparently Yamaha makes
> instruments that don't conform to their own standard.
> So, you could try putting together the sysex messages
> yourself, using the utilities mf2t and t2mf which are
> supplied with Scala. Perhaps putting a small delta time
> in between each message is a good idea.
> You can find the XG spec on the internet somewhere, don't
> have a link at hand.
> Then look for parameter addresses 41H to 4CH.
>
> Manuel

Thanks for looking into that :)That keyboard really annoys me. I
merely wanted a sampled piano and now that I found Steinberger's Th
e Grand I am just using that and FTS + Scala. I had never sought to
use such cheap synths before but my wife never used it so I thought
I might put it to use.