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> From: <graham@...>
> To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:38 AM
> Subject: [MMM] Re: The XenoMeters
>
>
> jacky_ligon wrote:
>
> > I really love 13 and 17, but what about 11? Who's using 11? This is a
> > favorite cycle of mine. I've heard some 7 based Arabic ryhthms too.
>
> See al-'awis from my other post. There are 11-beat Balkan dance rhythms.

i love using meters of 7, 11, 13, and other primes.
the fact that they can't be evenly divided creates an
asymmetry that i really like.

and noting Graham's statement, my introduction to these
unusual meters was thru my love for Bulgarian folk music
(not the Bulgarian Women's Choir, but the real deal, recorded
in the villages back in the 1950s -- altho the BWC uses
strange meters like this too).

-monz

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🔗klaus schmirler <KSchmir@...>

> > jacky_ligon wrote:
> >
> > > I really love 13 and 17, but what about 11? Who's
> using 11?

i overheard a ritual in mexico once. the music consisted of
a two bar melody repeated over and over (lines are two
beats, dots one; the phrase starts on the colon, and the
first and last longs in the bars are rests):

_ : _ . _ . _ I-IV
_ : _ . _ . _ V-I

it was a bit difficult to analyse because on of the
drummers, probably not caring much about the melody, kept
missing the two longs. the ceremony must have continued off
site, when all the players got in their cars and drove home;
i dont't know if it was successful in the house of that
drummer.

klaus

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

Where in Mexico?

klaus schmirler wrote:

> > > jacky_ligon wrote:
> > >
> > > > I really love 13 and 17, but what about 11? Who's
> > using 11?
>
> i overheard a ritual in mexico once. the music consisted of
> a two bar melody repeated over and over (lines are two
> beats, dots one; the phrase starts on the colon, and the
> first and last longs in the bars are rests):
>
> _ : _ . _ . _ I-IV
> _ : _ . _ . _ V-I
>
> it was a bit difficult to analyse because on of the
> drummers, probably not caring much about the melody, kept
> missing the two longs. the ceremony must have continued off
> site, when all the players got in their cars and drove home;
> i dont't know if it was successful in the house of that
> drummer.
>
> klaus
>
>
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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

I have no idea what you meant.

Kraig Grady wrote:

> Treated as the "subconscious" by the US, i think it might be south!
>
> George Zelenz wrote:
>
> > Where in Mexico?
> >
>
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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

How could you?

Kraig Grady wrote:

> Because i know i had no idea
>
> George Zelenz wrote:
>
> > How could you?
> >
> > Kraig Grady wrote:
> >
> > > i know what you mean!
> > >
> > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have no idea what you meant.
> >
>
> -- Kraig Grady
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🔗Orphon Soul, Inc. <tuning@...>

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

HOW COULD YOU?

"Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:

> My nose was burning.
> I figured you guys were doing this again.
>
> George Zelenz wrote:
>
> > How could you?
> >
> > Kraig Grady wrote:
> >
> >> Because i know i had no idea
> >>
> >> George Zelenz wrote:
> >>
> >>> How could you?
> >>>
> >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> i know what you mean!
> >>>>
> >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
>
> erms/

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
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🔗Orphon Soul, Inc. <tuning@...>

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

How could WHO?

Kraig Grady wrote:

> HOW COULD YOU?
>
> "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
>
> > My nose was burning.
> > I figured you guys were doing this again.
> >
> > George Zelenz wrote:
> >
> > > How could you?
> > >
> > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > >
> > >> Because i know i had no idea
> > >>
> > >> George Zelenz wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> How could you?
> > >>>
> > >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> i know what you mean!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
> >
> > erms/
>
> -- Kraig Grady
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>
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🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

Wait for who?

"Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:

> "Orphon Soul, Inc." will write more but for now:
>
> Oh just you wait.
>
> Kraig Grady wrote:
>
> > HOW COULD YOU?
> >
> > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> >
> >> My nose was burning.
> >> I figured you guys were doing this again.
> >>
> >> George Zelenz wrote:
> >>
> >>> How could you?
> >>>
> >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Because i know i had no idea
> >>>>
> >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> How could you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> i know what you mean!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
>
>
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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

Why wait?

George Zelenz wrote:

> Wait for who?
>
> "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
>
> > "Orphon Soul, Inc." will write more but for now:
> >
> > Oh just you wait.
> >
> > Kraig Grady wrote:
> >
> > > HOW COULD YOU?
> > >
> > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > >
> > >> My nose was burning.
> > >> I figured you guys were doing this again.
> > >>
> > >> George Zelenz wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> How could you?
> > >>>
> > >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Because i know i had no idea
> > >>>>
> > >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> How could you?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> i know what you mean!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
> >

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

Because...

Kraig Grady wrote:

> Why wait?
>
> George Zelenz wrote:
>
> > Wait for who?
> >
> > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> >
> > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." will write more but for now:
> > >
> > > Oh just you wait.
> > >
> > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > >
> > > > HOW COULD YOU?
> > > >
> > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> My nose was burning.
> > > >> I figured you guys were doing this again.
> > > >>
> > > >> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> How could you?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Because i know i had no idea
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> How could you?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i know what you mean!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
> > >
>
> -- Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
>
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🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

Good things come, to those who wait.

Kraig Grady wrote:

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

Because why?

George Zelenz wrote:

> Because...
>
> Kraig Grady wrote:
>
> > Why wait?
> >
> > George Zelenz wrote:
> >
> > > Wait for who?
> > >
> > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." will write more but for now:
> > > >
> > > > Oh just you wait.
> > > >
> > > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HOW COULD YOU?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> My nose was burning.
> > > > >> I figured you guys were doing this again.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> How could you?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Because i know i had no idea
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> How could you?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> i know what you mean!
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
>

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

Oh just you wait!

George Zelenz wrote:

> Good things come, to those who wait.
>
> Kraig Grady wrote:
>
> > Why wait?
> >
> > George Zelenz wrote:
> >
> > > Wait for who?
> > >
> > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." will write more but for now:
> > > >
> > > > Oh just you wait.
> > > >
> > > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HOW COULD YOU?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> My nose was burning.
> > > > >> I figured you guys were doing this again.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> How could you?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Because i know i had no idea
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> How could you?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> i know what you mean!
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
> > > >
> >
> > -- Kraig Grady
> > North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
> > http://www.anaphoria.com
> >
> > The Wandering Medicine Show
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-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
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🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

Kraig, this is simply in-excusable grammar.

Do you know what I mean?

Should you not know what I mean, I would be happy to elucidate in the most
expeditious manner, the facts of my case which would allow you to ascertain
exactly what I mean.

Do you know what I mean?

Kraig Grady wrote:

> Because why?
>
> George Zelenz wrote:
>
> > Because...
> >
> > Kraig Grady wrote:
> >
> > > Why wait?
> > >
> > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wait for who?
> > > >
> > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." will write more but for now:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh just you wait.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HOW COULD YOU?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> My nose was burning.
> > > > > >> I figured you guys were doing this again.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> How could you?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Because i know i had no idea
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> How could you?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> i know what you mean!
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
> >
>
> -- Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
>
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm
>
>
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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

Are we a waiter in Mexico
or are we subconscious that he is there?

George Zelenz wrote:

> Kraig, this is simply in-excusable grammar.
>
> Do you know what I mean?
>
> Should you not know what I mean, I would be happy to elucidate in the most
> expeditious manner, the facts of my case which would allow you to ascertain
> exactly what I mean.
>
> Do you know what I mean?
>
> GZ
>
> Kraig Grady wrote:
>
> > Because why?
> >
> > George Zelenz wrote:
> >
> > > Because...
> > >
> > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why wait?
> > > >
> > > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Wait for who?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." will write more but for now:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh just you wait.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > HOW COULD YOU?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Orphon Soul, Inc." wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> My nose was burning.
> > > > > > >> I figured you guys were doing this again.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> How could you?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Because i know i had no idea
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> How could you?
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> i know what you mean!
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I have no idea what you meant.
> > >
> >
>

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

🔗klaus schmirler <KSchmir@...>

let me tell you what you should have meant:

chiapas. i wouldn't be able to remember the name of the
village if i tried forever, but it's famous. one of your
former presidents went to a witch doctor there.

i saw another ceremony in mexico city in front of the
cathedral of the virgen de guadelupe which was much more
impressive optically as it had dancers and two guys with
whips to make them dance (a devil and a slave driver). the
music was in a regular 12/8 but didn't stick in my head the
way the 11/8 did, although this also consisted of two bars
only and went on for hours (days?). every once in a while,
they had to exchange the drummer while the fiddle player, an
old guy, stayed and stayed and stayed and played and played
and played. i asked what this was all about and got an
answer, but again i'd never heard the place name where they
came from and forgot it immediately. their object was to get
rain there.

back to chiapas: i was lucky to witness the first concert of
indigenous music there, organized by a doctor who felt this
part of the culture had to be made better known. there was a
trio of harp, guitar (or rather a 12-string cuatro), and
fiddle. they played a medley of tunes, none of which were in
strange meters, but all of them had this 2-bar structure.
for the concert situation, they played one tune for a while
and then segued into the next. still, i think there was even
a pause.

all this a couple of weeks before we played satie's
vexations in my village here.

know what i mean?

klaus

George Zelenz schrieb:
>
> How could you?
>
> Kraig Grady wrote:
>
> > Because i know i had no idea
> >
> > George Zelenz wrote:
> >
> > > How could you?
> > >
> > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > >
> > > > i know what you mean!
> > > >
> > > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have no idea what you meant.
> > >
> >
> > -- Kraig Grady
> > North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
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🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

Klaus,

look what you've done!

Had you replied earlier, we would have not only known what you meant, but we
would have known what "they" meant.

Saving us all from the torture of not knowing what we, or us, or they,
meant.

Do you know what I mean?

I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts, that down in Chiapas, they know what we
mean.

klaus schmirler wrote:

> let me tell you what you should have meant:
>
> chiapas. i wouldn't be able to remember the name of the
> village if i tried forever, but it's famous. one of your
> former presidents went to a witch doctor there.
>
> i saw another ceremony in mexico city in front of the
> cathedral of the virgen de guadelupe which was much more
> impressive optically as it had dancers and two guys with
> whips to make them dance (a devil and a slave driver). the
> music was in a regular 12/8 but didn't stick in my head the
> way the 11/8 did, although this also consisted of two bars
> only and went on for hours (days?). every once in a while,
> they had to exchange the drummer while the fiddle player, an
> old guy, stayed and stayed and stayed and played and played
> and played. i asked what this was all about and got an
> answer, but again i'd never heard the place name where they
> came from and forgot it immediately. their object was to get
> rain there.
>
> back to chiapas: i was lucky to witness the first concert of
> indigenous music there, organized by a doctor who felt this
> part of the culture had to be made better known. there was a
> trio of harp, guitar (or rather a 12-string cuatro), and
> fiddle. they played a medley of tunes, none of which were in
> strange meters, but all of them had this 2-bar structure.
> for the concert situation, they played one tune for a while
> and then segued into the next. still, i think there was even
> a pause.
>
> all this a couple of weeks before we played satie's
> vexations in my village here.
>
> know what i mean?
>
> klaus
>
> George Zelenz schrieb:
> >
> > How could you?
> >
> > Kraig Grady wrote:
> >
> > > Because i know i had no idea
> > >
> > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > >
> > > > How could you?
> > > >
> > > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > i know what you mean!
> > > > >
> > > > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have no idea what you meant.
> > > >
> > >
> > > -- Kraig Grady
> > > North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
> > > http://www.anaphoria.com
> > >
> > > The Wandering Medicine Show
> > > Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm
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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

Seriously?

George Zelenz wrote:

> Klaus,
>
> look what you've done!
>
> Had you replied earlier, we would have not only known what you meant, but we
> would have known what "they" meant.
>
> Saving us all from the torture of not knowing what we, or us, or they,
> meant.
>
> Do you know what I mean?
>
> I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts, that down in Chiapas, they know what we
> mean.
>
> GZ
>
> klaus schmirler wrote:
>
> > let me tell you what you should have meant:
> >
> > chiapas. i wouldn't be able to remember the name of the
> > village if i tried forever, but it's famous. one of your
> > former presidents went to a witch doctor there.
> >
> > i saw another ceremony in mexico city in front of the
> > cathedral of the virgen de guadelupe which was much more
> > impressive optically as it had dancers and two guys with
> > whips to make them dance (a devil and a slave driver). the
> > music was in a regular 12/8 but didn't stick in my head the
> > way the 11/8 did, although this also consisted of two bars
> > only and went on for hours (days?). every once in a while,
> > they had to exchange the drummer while the fiddle player, an
> > old guy, stayed and stayed and stayed and played and played
> > and played. i asked what this was all about and got an
> > answer, but again i'd never heard the place name where they
> > came from and forgot it immediately. their object was to get
> > rain there.
> >
> > back to chiapas: i was lucky to witness the first concert of
> > indigenous music there, organized by a doctor who felt this
> > part of the culture had to be made better known. there was a
> > trio of harp, guitar (or rather a 12-string cuatro), and
> > fiddle. they played a medley of tunes, none of which were in
> > strange meters, but all of them had this 2-bar structure.
> > for the concert situation, they played one tune for a while
> > and then segued into the next. still, i think there was even
> > a pause.
> >
> > all this a couple of weeks before we played satie's
> > vexations in my village here.
> >
> > know what i mean?
> >
> > klaus
> >
> > George Zelenz schrieb:
> > >
> > > How could you?
> > >
> > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > >
> > > > Because i know i had no idea
> > > >
> > > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > How could you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > i know what you mean!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no idea what you meant.
>

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

Seriously.

Kraig Grady wrote:

> Seriously?
>
> George Zelenz wrote:
>
> > Klaus,
> >
> > look what you've done!
> >
> > Had you replied earlier, we would have not only known what you meant, but we
> > would have known what "they" meant.
> >
> > Saving us all from the torture of not knowing what we, or us, or they,
> > meant.
> >
> > Do you know what I mean?
> >
> > I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts, that down in Chiapas, they know what we
> > mean.
> >
> > GZ
> >
> > klaus schmirler wrote:
> >
> > > let me tell you what you should have meant:
> > >
> > > chiapas. i wouldn't be able to remember the name of the
> > > village if i tried forever, but it's famous. one of your
> > > former presidents went to a witch doctor there.
> > >
> > > i saw another ceremony in mexico city in front of the
> > > cathedral of the virgen de guadelupe which was much more
> > > impressive optically as it had dancers and two guys with
> > > whips to make them dance (a devil and a slave driver). the
> > > music was in a regular 12/8 but didn't stick in my head the
> > > way the 11/8 did, although this also consisted of two bars
> > > only and went on for hours (days?). every once in a while,
> > > they had to exchange the drummer while the fiddle player, an
> > > old guy, stayed and stayed and stayed and played and played
> > > and played. i asked what this was all about and got an
> > > answer, but again i'd never heard the place name where they
> > > came from and forgot it immediately. their object was to get
> > > rain there.
> > >
> > > back to chiapas: i was lucky to witness the first concert of
> > > indigenous music there, organized by a doctor who felt this
> > > part of the culture had to be made better known. there was a
> > > trio of harp, guitar (or rather a 12-string cuatro), and
> > > fiddle. they played a medley of tunes, none of which were in
> > > strange meters, but all of them had this 2-bar structure.
> > > for the concert situation, they played one tune for a while
> > > and then segued into the next. still, i think there was even
> > > a pause.
> > >
> > > all this a couple of weeks before we played satie's
> > > vexations in my village here.
> > >
> > > know what i mean?
> > >
> > > klaus
> > >
> > > George Zelenz schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > How could you?
> > > >
> > > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Because i know i had no idea
> > > > >
> > > > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > How could you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i know what you mean!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > George Zelenz wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have no idea what you meant.
> >
>
> -- Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
>
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm
>
>
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