atonal chords vs./in JI

>> What I am saying is that a lot of the really juicy harmonies that I
>> admire, *aren't* 5- and 7-limit. So I wouldn't try to realize
>>the more complex elements of the chord as 5-limit (or 7-limit) tones.
>>

>***True, but then again, many significant aspects of your piece, at
>least the one you posted, *are...*
>
>Take the very opening. Sounds like a 12-tET major third to me.
>
>Surely that would sound a *lot* different in 5-limit just...
>

yes, but that D-F# soon expands into a
B2-C4-D4-F#4-Db5-Eb5-F5 chord.

so I'd probably tune this as
8:17:19:24:36:40:44
(that is 1:17:19:3:9:5:11 in smallest overtone terms.)

not as, say:
1: 16/15: 6/5: 3/2: 9/8: 5/4: 45/32

which would squeeze the whole thang into 5-limit.

but you are correct that the D-F# itself is, or would be, 5-limit.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., Christopher Bailey <cb202@c...> wrote:

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> >> What I am saying is that a lot of the really juicy harmonies
that I
> >> admire, *aren't* 5- and 7-limit. So I wouldn't try to realize
> >>the more complex elements of the chord as 5-limit (or 7-limit)
tones.
> >>
>
> >***True, but then again, many significant aspects of your piece, at
> >least the one you posted, *are...*
> >
> >Take the very opening. Sounds like a 12-tET major third to me.
> >
> >Surely that would sound a *lot* different in 5-limit just...
> >
>
> yes, but that D-F# soon expands into a
> B2-C4-D4-F#4-Db5-Eb5-F5 chord.
>
> so I'd probably tune this as
> 8:17:19:24:36:40:44
> (that is 1:17:19:3:9:5:11 in smallest overtone terms.)
>
> not as, say:
> 1: 16/15: 6/5: 3/2: 9/8: 5/4: 45/32
>
> which would squeeze the whole thang into 5-limit.
>
> but you are correct that the D-F# itself is, or would be, 5-limit.

***Hmmm, that's very interesting, Chris!

I would like to hear the two different examples to compare them. I
wonder if anybody "out there" has the time to "tune them up..."

The 5-limit one is certainly much easier to read and understand... :)

However, it surely would be interesting to hear if the 11-limit one
has true virtues over this...

Thanks, Chris, for the interesting post. Frankly, I'd like to hear
*several differently* tuned versions of your music. The sonorities
are so rich and fascinating, that retuning would be fascinating as
well....

jp