Re: Two Golden Flutes, 3 Step Phi Scale (was Devotion...)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., jacky_ligon@y... wrote:

> Let me know what you think of this, as you opinion would be held in
> highest regard.

This was a fascinating piece! It immediately brought Johnny Reinhard
to mind. It's right up his alley! If you were to score this out (with
cents) for bassoon and one other instrument, I'd say the probability
is very high that you'd eventually get a very fine acoustic
performance of this piece (not that your electronic rendition leaves
that much to be desired). The virtuosity, and in particular the
microtonal language, of this piece is sure to appeal to Johnny . . .
don't know if this would interest you, but it's what immediately came
to mind.

Thanks for sharing this piece, and for indulging my curiosity, and
for correctly perceiving the spirit in which my curiosity was
expressed!

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., jacky_ligon@y... wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Hello!
>
> Thanks for the nice comments! Even though I have followed many of
the
> notation threads on the ATL with great interest, I must admit to
> being very inept at notating micro-music. Can do 12 tET - but some
of
> the scales just boggle my mind when I think about how I might do
> this. Especially with regard to scales without 2/1.

Johnny would have you use standard 12-tET (or 24-tET) notation, with
cents deviations indicated above each notehead. So if you're familiar
with standard 12-tET notation, you're in a perfect position to make
this happen . . . looking forward to seeing your name on an AFMM
program in the near future!

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

/makemicromusic/topicId_165.html#165

> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., jacky_ligon@y... wrote:
>
> > Let me know what you think of this, as you opinion would be held
in
> > highest regard.
>
> This was a fascinating piece! It immediately brought Johnny
Reinhard
> to mind. It's right up his alley! If you were to score this out
(with
> cents) for bassoon and one other instrument, I'd say the
probability
> is very high that you'd eventually get a very fine acoustic
> performance of this piece (not that your electronic rendition
leaves
> that much to be desired). The virtuosity, and in particular the
> microtonal language, of this piece is sure to appeal to
Johnny . . .
> don't know if this would interest you, but it's what immediately
came
> to mind.
>
> Thanks for sharing this piece, and for indulging my curiosity, and
> for correctly perceiving the spirit in which my curiosity was
> expressed!

This entire matter was discussed on the lovely _Crazy Music_ lists...

One of the problems, as I see it, is the difficulty in getting the
correct fingerings on woodwind instruments to do this kind of thing.

Frankly, I'm not quite as optimistic as my friend Johnny Reinhard
that this kind of thing can be accurately done...

___________ __________ ______
Joseph Pehrson

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

/makemicromusic/topicId_165.html#186

> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., jacky_ligon@y... wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > Thanks for the nice comments! Even though I have followed many of
> the
> > notation threads on the ATL with great interest, I must admit to
> > being very inept at notating micro-music. Can do 12 tET - but
some
> of
> > the scales just boggle my mind when I think about how I might do
> > this. Especially with regard to scales without 2/1.
>
> Johnny would have you use standard 12-tET (or 24-tET) notation,
with
> cents deviations indicated above each notehead. So if you're
familiar
> with standard 12-tET notation, you're in a perfect position to make
> this happen . . . looking forward to seeing your name on an AFMM
> program in the near future!

The problem, though, Paul is again the accuracy of woodwind
fingerings for this. I'm dubious...

___________ _______ _____
Joseph Pehrson

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> >
> > Johnny would have you use standard 12-tET (or 24-tET) notation,
> with
> > cents deviations indicated above each notehead. So if you're
> familiar
> > with standard 12-tET notation, you're in a perfect position to
make
> > this happen . . . looking forward to seeing your name on an AFMM
> > program in the near future!
>
> The problem, though, Paul is again the accuracy of woodwind
> fingerings for this. I'm dubious...
>
It's not a question of fingerings. Fingerings can't be relied on to
produce better than 25 cents accuracy, as Johnny likes to point out.
It's a question of Johnny himself having spent years playing into a
tuner and honing his abilities to the point where I'd bet he easily
achieves an average error of 5 cents, if not better. In my vision,
Johnny himself and a high-level cohort would have to be the ones to
perform this piece, in case I didn't make that clear.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

/makemicromusic/topicId_165.html#258

> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., jpehrson@r... wrote:
> > >
> > > Johnny would have you use standard 12-tET (or 24-tET) notation,
> > with
> > > cents deviations indicated above each notehead. So if you're
> > familiar
> > > with standard 12-tET notation, you're in a perfect position to
> make
> > > this happen . . . looking forward to seeing your name on an
AFMM
> > > program in the near future!
> >
> > The problem, though, Paul is again the accuracy of woodwind
> > fingerings for this. I'm dubious...
> >
> It's not a question of fingerings. Fingerings can't be relied on to
> produce better than 25 cents accuracy, as Johnny likes to point
out.
> It's a question of Johnny himself having spent years playing into a
> tuner and honing his abilities to the point where I'd bet he easily
> achieves an average error of 5 cents, if not better. In my vision,
> Johnny himself and a high-level cohort would have to be the ones to
> perform this piece, in case I didn't make that clear.

Oh... sure. In that case it's different.

Of course, I find the whole concept that only a very select group of
musicians can play a piece *very* problematic...

I guess that situation has always existed in jazz... but in "concert
music" I'd like to see a bit more "universality..."

________ _______ ______
Joseph Pehrson