Mavila vs Pelogic

I did some more digging into the Mavila/Pelogic thing, and found that
Graham's temperament finder has at least three 135/128 names of
interest, all of which conflict with the xenwiki

5-limit Mavila (Xenwiki calls 5-limit "Mavila/Pelogic")
http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=7_2p&limit=5

7-limit Pelogic (Xenwiki calls 7-limit "Hexadecimal")
http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=9_16&limit=7

But then there's also this 7-limit Mavila, which seems to have a
ridiculous mapping for 7
http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2p_7&limit=7

This is also called "Mavila" by the xenwiki. But the xenwiki claims
that 16-equal supports it, which the patent val doesn't, although the
16d mapping does. Can anyone shed some light onto what's going on
here?

-Mike

Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
> I did some more digging into the Mavila/Pelogic thing,
> and found that Graham's temperament finder has at least
> three 135/128 names of interest, all of which conflict
> with the xenwiki

The 7-limit names are here:

http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/uv.cgi?limit=7&uvs=135:128

It's up to you what you find interesting. There are no
conflicts with the Xenwiki pages I scrape, being:

http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/proposed+names+for+rank+2+temperaments
http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/optimal+patent+val
chromatic+pairs
http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/chromatic+pairs

> 5-limit Mavila (Xenwiki calls 5-limit "Mavila/Pelogic")
> http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=7_2p&limit=5

If the wiki has two names, I take the first. In this case
that doesn't matter because its an old name.

> 7-limit Pelogic (Xenwiki calls 7-limit "Hexadecimal")
> http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=9_16&limit=7

It's called "hexadecimal, pelogic" and that's good enough.
It's listed as "Pelogic" here as well:

http://lumma.org/tuning/gws/sevnames.htm

> But then there's also this 7-limit Mavila, which seems to
> have a ridiculous mapping for 7
> http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2p_7&limit=7

It comes from the wiki and there's nothing wrong with it.

> This is also called "Mavila" by the xenwiki. But the
> xenwiki claims that 16-equal supports it, which the
> patent val doesn't, although the 16d mapping does. Can
> anyone shed some light onto what's going on here?

Which page of the Xenwiki?

Graham

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Graham Breed <gbreed@...> wrote:
>
> Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
> > I did some more digging into the Mavila/Pelogic thing,
> > and found that Graham's temperament finder has at least
> > three 135/128 names of interest, all of which conflict
> > with the xenwiki
>
> The 7-limit names are here:
>
> http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/uv.cgi?limit=7&uvs=135:128
>
> It's up to you what you find interesting. There are no
> conflicts with the Xenwiki pages I scrape, being:
>
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/proposed+names+for+rank+2+temperaments
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/optimal+patent+val
> chromatic+pairs
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/chromatic+pairs

I was looking here -
http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Pelogic+family

I've tweaked it since this message to reflect the names you wrote
below, but originally the Mavila (5-limit) at the top wasn't called
anything, and the Pelogic one was just called Hexadecimal.

> > 7-limit Pelogic (Xenwiki calls 7-limit "Hexadecimal")
> > http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=9_16&limit=7
>
> It's called "hexadecimal, pelogic" and that's good enough.
> It's listed as "Pelogic" here as well:
>
> http://lumma.org/tuning/gws/sevnames.htm

OK, I've changed it to Hexadecimal/Pelogic on the Pelogic family page for now.

> > But then there's also this 7-limit Mavila, which seems to
> > have a ridiculous mapping for 7
> > http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2p_7&limit=7
>
> It comes from the wiki and there's nothing wrong with it.

Just curious, where did this mapping come from? What was the rationale
behind it, how did it get the "Mavila" name? The "hexadecimal/pelogic"
mapping above was the one that I always thought was the "standard"
7-limit mapping for mavila until I saw this.

> > This is also called "Mavila" by the xenwiki. But the
> > xenwiki claims that 16-equal supports it, which the
> > patent val doesn't, although the 16d mapping does. Can
> > anyone shed some light onto what's going on here?
>
> Which page of the Xenwiki?

This one here:

http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Pelogic+family

-Mike