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More comma pump examples

🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...>

5/16/2011 11:05:24 PM

Put it on auto-repeat to really get into it:

http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Comma+pump+examples

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

5/16/2011 11:11:08 PM

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:05 AM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@...> wrote:
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> Put it on auto-repeat to really get into it:
>
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Comma+pump+examples

These look awesome Gene, but to reiterate my previous concern, is
there no way that we can use a different notation for these? Chords
like

686/625-784/625-196/125-1176/625

and

6125/5832-30625/23328-4375/2916-30625/17496

and

18375/16384-2625/2048-6125/4096-3675/2048
18375/16384-42875/32768-6125/4096-30625/16384

are completely opaque to me; they literally require that I grab a
calculator and just guess at random numbers until I find the common
factor for the whole tetrad and finally manage to figure out what the
chord quality is. Couldn't we use some notation like 686/625 * [1/1
5/4 3/2 7/4] or something like that? Insofar as the listing is
supposed to act like a score, I'm lost.

If there's some easy way to factor these that I'm not aware of, I'm
all for it, but my approach to figure these out so far has required
the brute force calculator approach, which is extremely time
consuming.

-Mike

🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...>

5/17/2011 12:16:10 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
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> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:05 AM, genewardsmith
> <genewardsmith@...> wrote:
> >
> > Put it on auto-repeat to really get into it:
> >
> > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Comma+pump+examples
>
> These look awesome Gene, but to reiterate my previous concern, is
> there no way that we can use a different notation for these? Chords
> like

I could use both, I suppose.

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

5/17/2011 2:16:11 AM

Thanks Gene, much appreciated.

-Mike

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:16 AM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@...> wrote:
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> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:05 AM, genewardsmith
> > <genewardsmith@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Put it on auto-repeat to really get into it:
> > >
> > > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Comma+pump+examples
> >
> > These look awesome Gene, but to reiterate my previous concern, is
> > there no way that we can use a different notation for these? Chords
> > like
>
> I could use both, I suppose.
>
>

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

5/17/2011 3:32:54 PM

I didn't see a player

so I got the yahoo media player working on the wiki page.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:05 AM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

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> Put it on auto-repeat to really get into it:
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> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Comma+pump+examples
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>

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

5/17/2011 3:35:14 PM

mind bending...

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>wrote:

> I didn't see a player
>
> so I got the yahoo media player working on the wiki page.
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> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:05 AM, genewardsmith <
> genewardsmith@...> wrote:
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>> Put it on auto-repeat to really get into it:
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>> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Comma+pump+examples
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🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

5/17/2011 4:23:27 PM

These sound cool....how did you go about realizing them? Like other folk
around here, I'm confused by the score---seems there is a lot of
syncopation, but that doesn't seem to be conveyed by your text notation....

AKJ

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:05 AM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@...>wrote:

> Put it on auto-repeat to really get into it:
>
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Comma+pump+examples
>
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🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...>

5/17/2011 5:24:55 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
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> mind bending...

The pumps or the Yahoo player?

> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>wrote:
>
> > I didn't see a player
> >
> > so I got the yahoo media player working on the wiki page.

Wish I knew how. This:

[[media type="custom" key="9457986"]]

was bizarrely located in the middle of a ratio.

🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...>

5/17/2011 5:35:24 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...> wrote:
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> These sound cool....how did you go about realizing them?

Some program called microcsound.

Like other folk
> around here, I'm confused by the score---seems there is a lot of
> syncopation, but that doesn't seem to be conveyed by your text notation....

If you take the text, apply an edo which tempers out the comma in question to the ratios, and then hold any note so long as the pitch doesn't change, you get the syncopation.

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

5/17/2011 5:42:42 PM

the pumps of course!!

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:24 PM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@...>wrote:

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>
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> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> >
> > mind bending...
>
> The pumps or the Yahoo player?
>
>

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

5/19/2011 12:31:34 AM

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:35 PM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@...>wrote:

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> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...> wrote:
> >
> > These sound cool....how did you go about realizing them?
>
> Some program called microcsound.
>
>
I thought so, but you never know---I might have been embarrassed assuming
otherwise...sounds like you have the hang of getting different FM timbres.
:)

I'd like to add an FAQ to the docs eventually, and your experience getting
up and running, esp. on Windows, will be useful. Let's chat soon.

Are you just using 'micrcsound -s' to produce scores and run them through
Csound manually, or have you figured out the straight commands to put at the
top of the script to produce WAV files directly? And have you tried
interactive mode?

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