For Bobro

Hi all,

I'm cross-posting this to the 2 major tuning lists on yahoo (MMM, tuning) as
well as the csound list because I thought it might be of interest to both
audiences. Sorry in advance for the duplicates for those who subscribe to
both....

This is a total egghead piece. I wouldn't try to use it to seduce any ladies
or anything. It does seem to create a distinct mood that I find pleasant
anyway. We've been discussing serialism on the MakeMicroMusic list a bit,
and how he avoidance of tonal harmony might be better served by EDOs like 11
or 13, etc. that have poor representations of the lower, stronger overtones.
Gene Ward Smith advocated for 14edo by in essence daring someone to write
something serial-ish for it.

I've never been all that fond of (most) serially composed music, though I've
some colleagues who have done real well by it, but it was good fun to give
it my (pseudo) first shot. Technically, it's not at all strict serialism in
this piece, but more a technique of using an 'abstract row' of motivic
material as a recurrent ostinato (perhaps I'll try a stricter example later,
but onward....). I can say more if anyone's interested, but for now, those
that listen, I'd be curious what you hear...

I used my own 'microcsound' (article in Csound journal coming up soon,
hopefully...) which of course is a front-end for writing score-files in what
may be the most killer sound app of all time....so without further ado:

http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/for_bobro.mp3

Ok, folks, let's hear *your* quick and dirty neo-2nd Viennese experiments!

Best,
AKJ

--
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...> wrote:

> This is a total egghead piece. I wouldn't try to use it to seduce any ladies
> or anything. It does seem to create a distinct mood that I find pleasant
> anyway.

Yup! I think you've found the right way to compose in 14.

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:00 AM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...> wrote:
>
> > This is a total egghead piece. I wouldn't try to use it to seduce any ladies
> > or anything. It does seem to create a distinct mood that I find pleasant
> > anyway.
>
> Yup! I think you've found the right way to compose in 14.

I am of course obliged to mention here that Knowsur's album in 14
contains some of the best microtonal music I have ever heard.

-Mike

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:00 AM, genewardsmith
> <genewardsmith@...> wrote:

> > Yup! I think you've found the right way to compose in 14.
>
> I am of course obliged to mention here that Knowsur's album in 14
> contains some of the best microtonal music I have ever heard.

I liked AJK's piece *much* better than Knowsur. Knowsur, like Igs, gives me a headache in 14. I do not like it, Sam-I-Am.

Gene>"Knowsur, like Igs, gives me a headache in 14. I do not like it, Sam-I-Am."

Sounds like a challenge, let me go write something in 14TET.  :-D

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Michael <djtrancendance@...> wrote:
>
> Gene>"Knowsur, like Igs, gives me a headache in 14. I do not like it, Sam-I-Am."
>
> Sounds like a challenge, let me go write something in 14TET.  :-D

Is the challenge to give me a headache, or not to give me a headache?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:38 PM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:00 AM, genewardsmith
> > <genewardsmith@...> wrote:
>
> > > Yup! I think you've found the right way to compose in 14.
> >
> > I am of course obliged to mention here that Knowsur's album in 14
> > contains some of the best microtonal music I have ever heard.
>
> I liked AJK's piece *much* better than Knowsur. Knowsur, like Igs, gives me a headache in 14. I do not like it, Sam-I-Am.

What about Blackwood's piece?

-Mike

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:38 PM, genewardsmith
> <genewardsmith@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:00 AM, genewardsmith
> > > <genewardsmith@> wrote:
> >
> > > > Yup! I think you've found the right way to compose in 14.
> > >
> > > I am of course obliged to mention here that Knowsur's album in 14
> > > contains some of the best microtonal music I have ever heard.
> >
> > I liked AJK's piece *much* better than Knowsur. Knowsur, like Igs, gives me a headache in 14. I do not like it, Sam-I-Am.
>
> What about Blackwood's piece?

It's my least favorite from the set, but I like it better than Knowsur.

I didn't get to this now.

So your tonerow has a repeated motif in it? My take is that the piece has
very high continuity for serialism.

Interesting - and hats off to using csound - I love csound - the learnign
curve is so steep because you DO have control over anything,.

Chris

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Aaron Krister Johnson
<aaron@...>wrote:

>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm cross-posting this to the 2 major tuning lists on yahoo (MMM, tuning)
> as well as the csound list because I thought it might be of interest to both
> audiences. Sorry in advance for the duplicates for those who subscribe to
> both....
>
> This is a total egghead piece. I wouldn't try to use it to seduce any
> ladies or anything. It does seem to create a distinct mood that I find
> pleasant anyway. We've been discussing serialism on the MakeMicroMusic list
> a bit, and how he avoidance of tonal harmony might be better served by EDOs
> like 11 or 13, etc. that have poor representations of the lower, stronger
> overtones. Gene Ward Smith advocated for 14edo by in essence daring someone
> to write something serial-ish for it.
>
> I've never been all that fond of (most) serially composed music, though
> I've some colleagues who have done real well by it, but it was good fun to
> give it my (pseudo) first shot. Technically, it's not at all strict
> serialism in this piece, but more a technique of using an 'abstract row' of
> motivic material as a recurrent ostinato (perhaps I'll try a stricter
> example later, but onward....). I can say more if anyone's interested, but
> for now, those that listen, I'd be curious what you hear...
>
> I used my own 'microcsound' (article in Csound journal coming up soon,
> hopefully...) which of course is a front-end for writing score-files in what
> may be the most killer sound app of all time....so without further ado:
>
> http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/for_bobro.mp3
>
> Ok, folks, let's hear *your* quick and dirty neo-2nd Viennese experiments!
>
> Best,
> AKJ
>
> --
> Aaron Krister Johnson
> http://www.akjmusic.com
> http://www.untwelve.org
>
>
>