57edo

I just edited http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/57edo to reflect the fact that it is a killer tuning for the 2.5/3.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup. Will that provide enough inspiration for anyone to give it a try?

I just dropped off a guitar this evening at Brad for conversion to 19
edo and he thought that would be really packing the frets in. If I
mention 57 edo he'll probably shake his head and tell me the fret wire
doesn't come so thin. I might get a 22 by him.... we'll see about that
in the future.

Seriously - that is a lot to keep track of in a score situation - I
know other people have done edos this big - how is it done?

Chris

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:52 PM, genewardsmith
<genewardsmith@...> wrote:
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> I just edited http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/57edo to reflect the fact that it is a killer tuning for the 2.5/3.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup. Will that provide enough inspiration for anyone to give it a try?

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:

> Seriously - that is a lot to keep track of in a score situation - I
> know other people have done edos this big - how is it done?

You mean on a guitar? I would presume one of the best ways to handle an edo like 57 would be to not use a guitar. Of course, you could try three people playing 19edo guitars, if you were an optimist.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> I just dropped off a guitar this evening at Brad for conversion to 19
> edo and he thought that would be really packing the frets in. If I
> mention 57 edo he'll probably shake his head and tell me the fret wire
> doesn't come so thin. I might get a 22 by him.... we'll see about that
> in the future.

Just show him a picture of Ron Sword with his 41-EDO classical. 22 looks like nothing in comparison.

But hey, congrats on the going 19! Looking forward to hear what you do with it!

-Igs

No, I meant how to handle scoring (Heinz) 57 edo. That is a lot of notes to
keep track of.
Does thing mean one is putting in a note + tuning bend for every note? That
sounds tedious.

Chris

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:29 PM, genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...
> wrote:

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> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
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> > Seriously - that is a lot to keep track of in a score situation - I
> > know other people have done edos this big - how is it done?
>
> You mean on a guitar? I would presume one of the best ways to handle an edo
> like 57 would be to not use a guitar. Of course, you could try three people
> playing 19edo guitars, if you were an optimist.
>
>
>

You know... I saw (for the first time) a Baritone guitar at GC when I bought
my 5 string bass a couple months ago. That type of instrument - with a lot
longer neck then usual may actually be sensible for high number edos. Or
perhaps convert a bass with 6 or more string guitar hardware.

Thanks on the 19 - I'm looking forward to getting the new axe. It is a nice
gloss black Ibenez this time with 2 humbuckers and whammy bar. I got it for
under $100 and it played beautifully - especially for the price range. My
only recorded jam as a 12 equal axe (with loop station and ebow) is here:

online play http://alonetone.com/vaisvil/tracks/japanese-ghost-house-boat

download
http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/improvfriday/daily20110318a-loop-japanese-ghost-house-boat.mp3

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:01 AM, cityoftheasleep <igliashon@...>wrote:

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>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> >
> > I just dropped off a guitar this evening at Brad for conversion to 19
> > edo and he thought that would be really packing the frets in. If I
> > mention 57 edo he'll probably shake his head and tell me the fret wire
> > doesn't come so thin. I might get a 22 by him.... we'll see about that
> > in the future.
>
> Just show him a picture of Ron Sword with his 41-EDO classical. 22 looks
> like nothing in comparison.
>
> But hey, congrats on the going 19! Looking forward to hear what you do with
> it!
>
> -Igs
>
>
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
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> No, I meant how to handle scoring (Heinz) 57 edo. That is a lot of notes to
> keep track of.
> Does thing mean one is putting in a note + tuning bend for every note? That
> sounds tedious.

I score things in an ascii file in a piano roll format, using integers. So in my score, an octave of 57 goes 0, 1, 2, ... 57; no weird symbols need apply. This can easily be converted to a Scala seq file, and there you are.

Chris,
Based on the Progression of Musical Cells I am calculating a scale with 36 unequal division octave. (17*36 equals 612).
Mario

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Vaisvil
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: 57edo

No, I meant how to handle scoring (Heinz) 57 edo. That is a lot of notes to keep track of.
Does thing mean one is putting in a note + tuning bend for every note? That sounds tedious.

Chris

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:29 PM, genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...> wrote:

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:

> Seriously - that is a lot to keep track of in a score situation - I
> know other people have done edos this big - how is it done?

You mean on a guitar? I would presume one of the best ways to handle an edo like 57 would be to not use a guitar. Of course, you could try three people playing 19edo guitars, if you were an optimist.

At one point I was composing music modules with a similar format - my hat is
off to you if you can "hear" what you are composing like that. I'm pretty
spoiled and need the aural feedback since my ear training is really poor.

It would seem Csound would be a natural for you.

Chris

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:21 PM, genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...
> wrote:

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>
>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> >
> > No, I meant how to handle scoring (Heinz) 57 edo. That is a lot of notes
> to
> > keep track of.
> > Does thing mean one is putting in a note + tuning bend for every note?
> That
> > sounds tedious.
>
> I score things in an ascii file in a piano roll format, using integers. So
> in my score, an octave of 57 goes 0, 1, 2, ... 57; no weird symbols need
> apply. This can easily be converted to a Scala seq file, and there you are.
>
>
>
>

At one point I was composing music modules with a similar format - my hat is
off to you if you can "hear" what you are composing like that. I'm pretty
spoiled and need the aural feedback since my ear training is really poor.

It would seem Csound would be a natural for you.

Chris

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:21 PM, genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...
> wrote:

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>
>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> >
> > No, I meant how to handle scoring (Heinz) 57 edo. That is a lot of notes
> to
> > keep track of.
> > Does thing mean one is putting in a note + tuning bend for every note?
> That
> > sounds tedious.
>
> I score things in an ascii file in a piano roll format, using integers. So
> in my score, an octave of 57 goes 0, 1, 2, ... 57; no weird symbols need
> apply. This can easily be converted to a Scala seq file, and there you are.
>
>
>
>