Re: [tuning] Re: Seventh Heaven (Jacques's alternatives)

Indeed it ("Seventh Heaven") is a beautiful scale.
And it's interesting to note that EVEN John's "Seventh Heaven" scale and that odd 14/9 "augmented" fifth, the scale has a lot of Mohajira flavors in it.

  I keep on seeing this pattern, that whenever I try to make a very well-balanced scale I end up with Mohajira, Meantone, or a combination of the two...and, if I have it right, Mohajira is pretty much to the Middle-East when Meantone is to the West.

BTW, this version of Seventh Heaven Jacques posted strikes me as very evenly spaced and potentially useful

"or 15/8, with a 56/45 as a tempered "turkish" third : 
1/1
54/49
9/8 
60/49
56/45
4/3
72/49
3/2
81/49
12/7
90/49
15/8
2/1"

  I'm just wondering...why not use 82/49 instead of 81/49 to bring that ratio closer to 5/3?

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Michael <djtrancendance@...> wrote:
>
> Indeed it ("Seventh Heaven") is a beautiful scale.
> And it's interesting to note that EVEN John's "Seventh Heaven" scale and that odd 14/9 "augmented" fifth, the scale has a lot of Mohajira flavors in it.

It's the 60:49:40 hyper-neutral thirds magic... not very 7th-limit by itself !

>   I keep on seeing this pattern, that whenever I try to make a very well-balanced scale I end up with Mohajira, Meantone, or a combination of the two...and, if I have it right, Mohajira is pretty much to the Middle-East when Meantone is to the West.

Yes, Mohajira is an oriental "hidden side" of Meantone...

> BTW, this version of Seventh Heaven Jacques posted strikes me as very evenly spaced and potentially useful
>
> "or 15/8, with a 56/45 as a tempered "turkish" third : 
> 1/1
> 54/49
> 9/8 
> 60/49
> 56/45
> 4/3
> 72/49
> 3/2
> 81/49
> 12/7
> 90/49
> 15/8
> 2/1"
>
>
>
>   I'm just wondering...why not use 82/49 instead of 81/49 to bring that ratio closer to 5/3?

Sure, I noticed this superb meantone sixth in here - I just wanted to stay in John's original 7th limit.
But you're right, we could even have a full diatonic in here :
[4/3 1/1 3/2 55/49 82/49 5/4 15/8]...